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Old 12-22-2015, 10:10 PM
 
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Yes- I agree.

I am really sick of the media hype in this country about "must have" toys, iPods, whatever... etc.....It is nonsensical.

It is nice to just appreciate people and family at other times, in my opinion. Xmas has been ruined with commercialism. JMO.
I couldn't agree more. I am so over all this hyped-excitement about getting the most recent box of plastic and metal, whether an X-box or the latest iPads. Don't consumers see how they are being manipulated? Like your status lies in having the most recent i-phone version? Really?

Most people give such useless gifts anyway, since most people in North America have an embarrassing excess of STUFF. All I want is something useful that I'm going to use up like some Tide pods, which is something I would use but is too pricey for me to afford as my regular detergent, so for me it is a luxury. Forget the chocolates, dust catchers, or perfume -- gift me some laundry detergent!

I gift people contributions to Doctors without Borders in their name. Kids are definitely under-whelmed, but I don't care, maybe when they are older they'll understand what really matters (lives) and what doesn't (things.)
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Old 12-24-2015, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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My wife and I just coasted through another December without doing the Christmas thing. We have money for travel. Our workplaces were mellow and there was lots of free food from holiday potlucks, etc. Guess what? No one really noticed or cared that we skipped the whole thing!
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Old 12-26-2015, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Even including Christmas dinner, I think we spent less than $150 on the entirety of Christmas which included presents for us as well as friends. Fortunately, everyone who knows us knows they are going to get presents we found at yard sales. They loved them anyway. I'm still looking for one of those vintage tinsel Christmas trees, though, haven't found one of those at a yard sale yet.
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Old 12-26-2015, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Kailua Kona, HI
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I seriously don't understand why people have such an issue with how others celebrate their holidays.

Christmas isn't "for children", "for family", "for religion" or anything else. Those are personal definitions for your own holidays, not anyone else's.

If others want to stimulate the economy, they'll get no argument from me. Doesn't hurt me in any way. In fact, it helps me. More tax revenue in my community--yay!

If you don't want to see xmas decorations in stores in August, vote with your feet. I've heard of some sales clerks being yelled at for this--as though it's their personal choice!

If you feel pressure because of what they're doing, find a way to lessen your feelings, and just go ahead and do whatever you want to do. If you want to bake cookies only, go for it. Gifts are never required under any circumstances.
Well said!
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Old 12-26-2015, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Kailua Kona, HI
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It's interesting, but before the coming of Christianity, pagans celebrated the Solstice--the returning of the light. After Dec. 21st, the light begins to return.

To those living in darkness, this natural passage was holy, indeed...

Then along came Christianity and Christmas. Look at our celebrations-- Christmas lights on the outside of our homes, Christmas tree lights--but it all harkens back to the pagan celebration of the Coming of the Light. Interesting that the purported birth date of Christ was very close to the Solstice, yes???

It takes a capitalistic society to turn this natural celebration into a time of buying mass produced gifts.

But we can craft our own observances, can't we? Whether Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhist, Hindus, or non-observers...

Our household celebrates the light--but not the urge to buy ...We just refuse to go get "malled."

Maybe you'll enjoy this essay on the topic: Solstice: Stay Close Soon Comes the Light | Vibrant Village
Actually, no. Christ's birth was more than likely in the late Fall according to some scholars. But who cares? He was born, and we celebrate that every day in our hearts.
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Old 12-26-2015, 11:00 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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Actually, no. Christ's birth was more than likely in the late Fall according to some scholars. But who cares? He was born, and we celebrate that every day in our hearts.
Late fall is December.
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Old 12-29-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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I had to decide whether to give my own kids more junk that would sit in the closet (The OP's Garage) More junk that they did not want or appreciate, or make a donation to buy toys for a child who may have had none, who would appreciate one gift because they was all they got for the year. I chose the later and the kids even helped pick out toys that kids like to donate

I am over the materialism as well.
I plan to spend more time on the frugal forums in 2016, not as an expert, but as a newby, as a learner, as someone who needs to get rid of the material excess and the mentality of "make more, spend more"
like I worked for the government or something
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Old 12-31-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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This has happened to me a couple of times in my life. I met someone and we began a friendship. Right away even though it was nowhere near Christmas each time the person told me they were putting me on their "Christmas list" and asked me what things I liked.

Each time I told the person I don't "do" Christmas presents especially with people I just met so please leave me off the list. They were shocked.

Well, to me, giving someone a gift should be a thoughtful experience and from the heart, not an automatic, "I know you so we have to give each other something." I thought that was really being presumptuous on their part.

Not to mention the fact I'm Jewish.
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Old 12-31-2015, 09:29 PM
 
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^^^

The voice of reason.

We send out a Hanukkah card to all of our Jewish friends along with our Christmas letter. We actually get more responses back from those cards as these folks are truly touched to get a card each year. It also is a great way to maintain relationships as we have maintained contact with some o the people for 30+ years.

As for gifts, I only give the ones that I want to give. I get particular joy surprising my aunts and uncles with gifts from the places that I have visited this year. And there is no stress involved as I generally know what I am going to order by August or so.
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Old 01-01-2016, 05:59 AM
 
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Grew up competing, spending maxxing out credit to give relatives nice gifts

At this point I have a nice house, friends, animals and a full life. It is no longer necessary to spend 10-20k on Christmas junk that gets tossed in the garage 2 weeks later.

I wonder if anyone else has similar thoughts? I now travel with family to see other countries, it is much more fulfilling.

Me!!

Even though I was raised by a typically average family that indeed fell for and actively engaged in all of those social constructs, I somehow "escaped" being tainted by all that crap. Maybe because I always felt like I never belonged and a little rebellious, but the truth is that I have never bought Xmas crap to give presents. Yes, I used to go to Christmas parties, but now I don't do that anymore; there's too much Stepford Wives-ish, robotic, empty Christmas cheer and consumerism for my taste. I'd rather celebrate my friends and loved ones all throughout the years in subtle ways, instead of vapid, insincere gift-giving and once-a-year, society-sanctioned drinking/partying/eating like a madman.
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