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Old 12-18-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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The 6000 kWh month was February and the data was not available to see daily usage. The data is downloads is not very detailed. It is not showing daily temp like yours.
There certainly is some odd data. For instance I can't believe your usage went to 16 kWh on 06 November even if nobody was home that day.

But your electric usage was on the whole higher than mine, and we live less than 100 miles apart. And this house is about 9000 square feet, built in 1928.


DATE ......... 21084 18017
Sun 01/Nov 15 53.07 27.44 93%
Mon 02/Nov 15 49.48 40.77 21%
Tue 03/Nov 15 73.00 54.75 33%
Wed 04/Nov 15 43.31 45.82 -5%
Thu 05/Nov 15 32.46 55.06 -41%
Fri 06/Nov 15 16.07 77.12 -79%
Sat 07/Nov 15 30.76 46.08 -33%
Sun 08/Nov 15 79.99 47.76 67%
Mon 09/Nov 15 115.64 63.88 81%
Tue 10/Nov 15 58.21 48.60 20%
Wed 11/Nov 15 50.00 49.64 1%
Thu 12/Nov 15 67.66 48.23 40%
Fri 13/Nov 15 78.75 49.48 59%
Sat 14/Nov 15 120.97 46.90 158%
Sun 15/Nov 15 107.12 51.96 106%
Mon 16/Nov 15 62.23 75.31 -17%
Tue 17/Nov 15 76.86 63.32 21%
Wed 18/Nov 15 68.21 61.13 12%
Thu 19/Nov 15 37.88 56.88 -33%
Fri 20/Nov 15 88.74 56.84 56%
Sat 21/Nov 15 103.63 63.26 64%
Sun 22/Nov 15 157.61 51.67 205%
Mon 23/Nov 15 189.84 59.52 219%
Tue 24/Nov 15 141.19 64.93 117%
Wed 25/Nov 15 113.00 60.71 86%
Thu 26/Nov 15 66.66 63.99 4%
Fri 27/Nov 15 39.59 84.71 -53%
Sat 28/Nov 15 41.41 64.35 -36%
Sun 29/Nov 15 45.90 46.58 -1%
Mon 30/Nov 15 90.10 47.08 91%
Total kWh 2,299.34 1,673.8 37%


You need some kind of local heat source . While it may not be entirely your heat pumps, they are certainly the driving factor. Come February you are going to have to turn the household heat down so low that it keeps the pipes from freezing, and wear warm clothes and sit near the local heat source.


Eventually, you must get some long term solutions, but in the next 30 days you need a safe local heat source.

Your best local heat source would be a pellet stove, but if that is not financially possible get some electric powered space heaters. Even though they are electric they are a localized souce, and you won't be struggling to heat the whole house.

Lasko 16 in. 1500-Watt Oscillating Ceramic Tower Heater with Manual Control-5307 - The Home Depot

You can download your electric usage daily, and keep track of how you are doing.
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Old 12-18-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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Please take my zip code out of your post.

I just replaced the chimney liner and had the gas stove insert hooked up the day before thanksgiving.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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Oddly we were home in the evening of November 6 (daughter and I). And on November 9, no one was home from 6am until almost 10 pm. It was my sons birthday and we were out with family, so I know this for sure.
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Old 12-18-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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OP,


I seem to recall reading somewhere that the two most common problems with heat pumps is that the technician installed the thermostats incorrectly (i.e. mixed up the wire connections) or they failed to instruct the homeowner on how to use the thermostat. (i.e. the homeowner thought they were supposed to turn on the heat by setting it to AUX heat - which is actually the emergency heat setting.)


When I had a brand new heat pump installed in 2007, the techs did all the tests on the unit and all seemed fine. The first cold month my bill was thru the roof. I knew something was wrong, but, did not know what. After multiple trips (it was under warranty) they finally found a damaged part that was a factory defect in the unit. They knew there was a leak somewhere in the system, but, they had to send out their most experienced technician to track it down. Two years later the thermostat had problems and they just replaced it with a new one under warranty. So, even a brand new unit can have issues.


The heat pumps may not be causing all your problems, but, my guess is something is going on with them and it may take an experienced technician to find the source of the problem. If it were me I think I might call a different HVAC company to come out and see if you are low on Freon and if the original technicians installed the thermostats correctly.
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Old 12-19-2015, 02:56 AM
 
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The heat pumps may not be causing all your problems, but, my guess is something is going on with them and it may take an experienced technician to find the source of the problem.
"Fahrenheit-based heating degree days for a base temperature of 65F" are easily calculated by the average temperature for each day relative to 65 degrees. So if the average temperature each day of the week is 60 degrees, that is 5 heating degree days times 7 days or 35 HDD for the week.

The coldest week so far this winter is still warmer than at least 17 weeks last winter. and already the electric bill is exceeded $100 in one week.

The oil filled electric heaters are very safe and cost about $60. At the rate you are using electricity, the cost of purchasing two or three of these is minimal.

It will drop below freezing tomorrow, so buy one of these immediately.

Pelonis Digital Oil Filled Heater, Black - Walmart.com


Table of heating degree days for the week beginning on the following days

105 Sat, Dec 12, 2015
172 Sat, Dec 05, 2015 $77.45 (#18)
152 Sat, Nov 28, 2015 $64.39
170 Sat, Nov 21, 2015 $113.46
116 Sat, Nov 14, 2015 $78.51
105 Sat, Nov 07, 2015
71 Sat, Oct 31, 2015
99 Sat, Oct 24, 2015
118 Sat, Oct 17, 2015
81 Sat, Oct 10, 2015
70 Sat, Oct 03, 2015
44 Sat, Sep 26, 2015
28 Sat, Sep 19, 2015
26 Sat, Sep 12, 2015
6 Sat, Sep 05, 2015
3 Sat, Aug 29, 2015
13 Sat, Aug 22, 2015
3 Sat, Aug 15, 2015
7 Sat, Aug 08, 2015
5 Sat, Aug 01, 2015
2 Sat, Jul 25, 2015
4 Sat, Jul 18, 2015
6 Sat, Jul 11, 2015
1 Sat, Jul 04, 2015
12 Sat, Jun 27, 2015
4 Sat, Jun 20, 2015
1 Sat, Jun 13, 2015
7 Sat, Jun 06, 2015
37 Sat, May 30, 2015
23 Sat, May 23, 2015
35 Sat, May 16, 2015
31 Sat, May 09, 2015
29 Sat, May 02, 2015
96 Sat, Apr 25, 2015
87 Sat, Apr 18, 2015
76 Sat, Apr 11, 2015
122 Sat, Apr 04, 2015
160 Sat, Mar 28, 2015
193 Sat, Mar 21, 2015 (#13)
182 Sat, Mar 14, 2015 (#17)
183 Sat, Mar 07, 2015 (#16)
282 Sat, Feb 28, 2015 (#3)
297 Sat, Feb 21, 2015 (#2)
370 Sat, Feb 14, 2015 (#1)
256 Sat, Feb 07, 2015 (#8)
280 Sat, Jan 31, 2015 (#6)
259 Sat, Jan 24, 2015 (#7)
243 Sat, Jan 17, 2015 (#9)
282 Sat, Jan 10, 2015 (#3)
281 Sat, Jan 03, 2015 (#5)
218 Sat, Dec 27, 2014 (#10)
191 Sat, Dec 20, 2014 (#15)
203 Sat, Dec 13, 2014 (#12)
215 Sat, Dec 06, 2014 (#11)
192 Sat, Nov 29, 2014 (#14)
178 2014-11-22
243 2014-11-15
155 2014-11-08
126 2014-11-01
95 2014-10-25
94 2014-10-18
56 2014-10-11
77 2014-10-04
25 2014-09-27
46 2014-09-20
53 2014-09-13
10 2014-09-06
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Old 12-21-2015, 09:27 PM
 
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I will second the Lasko heaters. Both my son and i have one each in our bedrooms. You don't need to run them that long. Just let it warm up the bedroom (maybe 15 to 20 minutes), and then click it off when it gets warm. It will keep the room warm for a few hours. This is the one I have and recommend it highly.

http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-6462-Cir...s=space+heater

I got this one for my son's room: http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-755320-C...s=space+heater

I don't see much of a spike in my electric bill, and sure beats the cost of heating the whole house to a comfortable temperature. Had them a couple of years and think they are great.
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Old 12-24-2015, 12:58 AM
 
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I will second the Lasko heaters.
New Year's Day will hit a low 24, so the mile weather will finally cease. I hope you tell us what you did, as I think you are going to get an extensive list after your audit.
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Old 12-29-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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To give an update, although it really gives no answers.

The tech came out yesterday to perform the audit, however he could not actually do the test because he found a few spots of black mold in the basement and the drywall has holes from prior plumbing repairs that need to be patched.

He did look around and said from what he can tell the attic only has 3" of insulation when it should have 16". He also stated the recessed lights with incandescent bulbs was a big issue. Of course with needing all dimmable, that's a huge expense to fix. Oh and he felt the roof might be an issue.

I called a friend to come repair the drywall, so hopefully he will be able to fit me into his schedule soon. As soon as the walls are sealed the audit can be rescheduled.

What I need is a Gofund me page and some sympathetic donators.

This is how my luck always runs. Two steps forward, five back and I can never get ahead.
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Old 12-29-2015, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Boise, ID
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He did look around and said from what he can tell the attic only has 3" of insulation when it should have 16".
That would be a huge factor in the winter. Heat rises, and with only 3" of insulation, it will rise right out the roof. So you are paying to heat the area above your house.
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Old 01-03-2016, 06:49 PM
 
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I changed all the inside recessed flood lights to LED light bulbs this weekend. Here is hoping it makes a difference.
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