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Old 12-26-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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The people I know who are like that with money create problems for their friends and family because of it. For all their high-minded values and talk about how money doesn't matter and you don't need it to be happy, it causes pressure on others to deal with it.

For minimalists who save a good deal of money, it doesn't necessarily. But for the broke or nearly broke, definitely.


I've been on the other end of this type of philosophy as well....because eventually most people end up with a problem that only money can solve (or at least money would be, by far, the easiest and most efficient solution). When the crisis hits (and it almost always does), they come to others asking for money or assistance that requires money. The high minded values are often used as a smokescreen for not facing some hard truths about themselves/their behavior that prevented them from earning/saving more.
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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I like having choices, even if my choice is to have less. Oddly enough, choosing less is actually enabling me to have more choices and it has nothing to do with character development.
Yep. Well said.
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Old 12-26-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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trying to link the type of person someone is with their income or worth is just silly .

that is the kind of wishful thinking you see when you have those who don't have much money try to feel better about that fact so they dream up the differences between themselves and others . .

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Old 12-26-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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If you read a bit more closely, you'll notice that the OP used the words "I think" and "to me" in expressing an opinion about a topic that comes up in life from time to time. Others joined in with their thoughts on what success means to them. Nobody is trying to TELL you anything, it's just an exchange of ideas (ie. a forum). You might find it more interesting to respond to a post over in the Forum Courtesy section.
this forum is divided into many subforums. there must be another one where meaningless opinions about the meaning of life are more appreciated. if im in a financial section, i dont need someone telling me that success isnt about money. if im in the auto section, i dont need someone telling me that success isnt about how great your car is. if im in the food forum, i dont need someone telling me that success isnt about delicious food. etc. etc. etc.
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Old 12-26-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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actually the forum is the frugal living forum so it does fit in , but the premise of ones character being linked to wealth just makes little sense .
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Old 12-26-2015, 02:36 PM
 
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actually the forum is the frugal living forum so it does fit in , but the premise of ones character being linked to wealth just makes little sense .
it would fit in just like it would fit in for him to go to the auto forum and say "being successful isnt about having the greatest car, its about. . ." just because the OP theoretically tied it into the subforums subject, doesnt really mean it fits in. nobody here is suggesting that being frugal means being successful in life. i dont think ive seen anyone in the frugal forum say that getting great deals makes them a success in life.
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Old 12-26-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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For minimalists who save a good deal of money, it doesn't necessarily. But for the broke or nearly broke, definitely.


I've been on the other end of this type of philosophy as well....because eventually most people end up with a problem that only money can solve (or at least money would be, by far, the easiest and most efficient solution). When the crisis hits (and it almost always does), they come to others asking for money or assistance that requires money. The high minded values are often used as a smokescreen for not facing some hard truths about themselves/their behavior that prevented them from earning/saving more.
I always liked dreamers... their optimism and seeming to exist in a nicer, prettier version of the pragmatic world around them.

I'm sure I'm around more successful people than unsuccessful people, whatever somebody's definition of 'success' is, but regarding financial success I don't run in crowds where people openly talk about investments or wealth. The financially successful people in my life hardly talk about money at all (at least around me), and have fairly mundane, low-key jobs and lives. That's why I'm on this forum so that I can get some exposure to people who are willing to talk about finances and investments.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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wow , pasta with ketchup , i love that combo , always did right from when i was a kid . all my italian buddy's used to gag when i ate it that way .

wasn't that in the story of passover ? i think moses left for the desert with matzah, pasta with ketchup and dr browns cream soda .
We were never so poor we couldn't afford to have some butter or "oleo" on our pasta with ketchup ... and it was something we kids preferred when my mother decided she needed to have something really gross like liver. When it's the only thing in the cupboard though ... that's tough. I taught for several years in inner city Buffalo, and I'm sure there were a few students in my classes who likely didn't even have pasta with ketchup some nights ...
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:01 PM
 
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that is the kind of wishful thinking you see when you have those who don't have much money try to feel better about that fact so they dream up the differences between themselves and others . .
YEp... exactly what I thought when I read the opening post.
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Old 12-26-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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We were never so poor we couldn't afford to have some butter or "oleo" on our pasta with ketchup ... and it was something we kids preferred when my mother decided she needed to have something really gross like liver. When it's the only thing in the cupboard though ... that's tough. I taught for several years in inner city Buffalo, and I'm sure there were a few students in my classes who likely didn't even have pasta with ketchup some nights ...
i still like it today but the thought of the butter in the ketchup doesn't sound so good to me .
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