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Old 01-27-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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The commodity prices are falling across the board, but I haven't noticed any cut in my grocery bills in the past year. How so??





Coffee prices fall, but your Starbucks latte won't cost less - Jan. 27, 2016




Prices for coffee beans are at their lowest point in nearly two years. A pound of arabica coffee -- the type Starbucks buys and serves to customers -- has fallen to around $1.11 from $1.65 a year ago. That's a 33% drop.
Officials in Brazil forecast that coffee farmers will have a huge harvest season this year, creating an oversupply of beans, which has led to the drop in prices . But no one expects latte prices to come down.
"You'll never really see anyone cut menu prices," says Peter Saleh, an analyst at research firm BTIG, who covers Starbucks.
Why?
"You're seeing a pretty big rise in wages, which is the other component of making your coffee," Saleh pointed out.
He has a point. States and cities across the country have been increasing the minimum wage. That affects all stores -- from your local coffee shop to the McDonald's (MCD) and Starbucks of the world.
However, it's worth remembering that in 2014, when coffee bean prices were rising, Starbucks (SBUX), Dunkin Donuts (DUNK) and other coffee brewers raised menu prices, citing the increasing cost of the commodity.
But now the reverse is not true.
Related: Starbucks adding 1,400 new stores in China
In fact, Starbucks slightly raised its menu prices last July even as coffee bean prices were falling. It cited rising costs.
True, minimum wages are rising. And rents have also been going up in many markets, at least for Starbucks, Saleh said. Starbucks has also begun to pay college tuition for 4,000 of its employees.
Those additional costs offset any gains Starbucks may get from the coffee bean price collapse.
Analysts say coffee beans only make up about 20% of Starbucks' overall costs.
Related: Starbucks new latte macchiato
Starbucks says its menu prices depend on a variety of factors and a spokesperson declined to discuss future menu prices, citing competitive reasons.
A Dunkin Donuts spokesperson says the company offers price recommendations to its independent franchisees but ultimately they choose what they charge at each individual store.
Hope isn't all lost. At least not for people who buy their coffee at the supermarket.
Last year, J.M. Smucker cut prices by 6% for Folgers and Dunkin Donuts coffee sold at grocery stores. Starbucks could do the same for its store-sold coffee, says R.J. Hottovy, an analyst at Morningstar.
But you can continue to expect Starbucks cafes to charge those higher prices.
Why? Because it can.
"Starbucks is able to charge those prices...[because] consumers are wiling to pay for it," says Hottovy.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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lol they never drop prices, probably worst kept secret and I don't blame them, frankly unless they see a big drop-off in business there really is no impetus to drop the price.
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Old 01-27-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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lol they never drop prices, probably worst kept secret and I don't blame them, frankly unless they see a big drop-off in business there really is no impetus to drop the price.

They raised prices for everything under the excuses of skyrocketing gas prices which increased their costs. And now they see that the gas is flowing into the toilet tubes and they can transport things around for almost free, why is there not cost/price reduction calculated for their customers?

Can't wait for president trump to come into office to get the justice back for our american consumers....
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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I generally pay a dollar for coffee, at most 2.50 for a starbucks latte in a bottle at a grocery store. I try to avoid starbucks suburban cultured, sophisticated feel good about yourself with your MacBook, brick and mortar stores when ever I can.
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:16 PM
 
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Isn't that how it always works? Companies complain when their costs go up, and they announce that they're going to raise prices. But when the costs go down, you can't count on any parallel price drop.

I just sent a lengthy complaint to Southwest Airlines that even though their fuel prices dropped by half, the fare I was paying was exactly the same.

Oh, and I encourage all you to complain, too.
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Old 01-27-2016, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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Any business will sell things for what the customers will pay them for it. I don't buy Starbucks coffee. Can't stand the burnt taste or the price. And in my opinion, anyone walking around with a Starbucks cup is announcing to the world that they have bad taste and throw away their money. The prestige thing is lost on me.
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Old 01-27-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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I have been paying less for coffee this year than in the past. I order either Community Coffee or San Francisco Bay Coffee Company through THEIR website when they are offering specials.
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Old 01-27-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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I have paid the same amount for my coffee every year for the last 35 years.



Oh - yea I don't drink cofee
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Old 01-28-2016, 01:41 AM
 
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I would never buy coffee out some place other than if I want a cup with a breakfast or brunch meal at a restaurant but even then I most often drink water. I would rather put my money towards the food instead of the overpriced beverages.

I also can not stand the taste of Starfunks coffee. It is wretched tasting to me. I don't know if they use chicory in their coffee that gives it that awful burnt taste or what.

I make coffee at home for pennies per cup and I take it in to-go mugs if I need/want to.

I have not noticed the prices of coffee at stores decreasing at all either even though the coffee bean prices, gas prices AND employee wages are all lower. And I doubt the coffee prices will ever be lowered nor any of the other food prices that have continued to skyrocket.
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Old 01-28-2016, 03:44 AM
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Trying to find a correlation between the price of a cup of coffee at a coffee shop and the price of coffee beans is like trying to find the correlation between how much electricity your home consumes and painting the walls a different color.

The price of a cup of coffee at a coffee shop is first and foremost based on value. You don't have to buy it, so what is going to drive its price more than anything else is how much the experience is worth to a typical person. (BTW, frugal people aren't "typical".)

As consumer-perceived value and cost of service get closer to each other, the price is also affected to some extent by cost of service. However, the cost of of service is overwhelmingly dominated by labor costs. Facility costs are also quite prominent. There are also costs associated with other consumables, such as cups and sweetener, but don't forget cleaning fluids and other consumables that go into running the operation that do not necessarily go into the cup of coffee you buy.

There are also costs of customer acquisition to consider. That's how much it costs to get consumers like yourself into the store in the first place. Those costs are prodigious, and come in two flavors: The attraction costs and the retention costs. Retention may also factor into the decision to not change prices too often (so regulars get accustomed to paying the same price for the same items, rather than raising suspicion based on the fact that the price for the same thing changes every day). Since raising prices involves risking customer retention, it is better to not lower prices a little when it is just as likely that naturally floating prices would just go back up a few weeks later. Consumers are often irrational and will remember price increases and magically forget price decreases.
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