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Old 06-26-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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I live like a king (imo) on less than $20k/year. Stress free.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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$32k/year is well above the average household income in our town. You would be among the wealthy people.

Teachers start 'low'. As I understand that career field, once you are in it then you need to continue your education. Focus on Education Admin for your Masters. Never stop taking courses. Never let a semester go by without taking at least one course toward that goal.
The key is HOUSEHOLD income where the average frequently includes TWO incomes, not just one as is the case of the OP.
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Old 06-26-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The key is HOUSEHOLD income where the average frequently includes TWO incomes, not just one as is the case of the OP.
Yes. I agree.

If two adults both work for Minimum-Wage. One is Full-Time and the other is seasonal part-time, as a household raising 2 children; their combined income puts them right exactly at the average household income [~$25k/year]. So they are good to go.

Which is also why the per-capita income in this area is so low. But nobody is starving

With the OP, as a single person talking about making $32k/year. She is well above the average household income in my region.

Transfer this to a high COL city, and you could be seen as very poor.
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Old 06-26-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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Maybe it will work for the OP since woman are not expected to come out of their pockets for dating costs. But no way in hell can a man live comfortably off 32K if he plans to date in addition to a car payment, gas costs, rent, bills, and savings.
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Old 06-26-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Maybe it will work for the OP since woman are not expected to come out of their pockets for dating costs. But no way in hell can a man live comfortably off 32K if he plans to date in addition to a car payment, gas costs, rent, bills, and savings.
???

A married man can support a family, but a single guy can not 'live comfortably' off $32k??

What about us guys who earn half that much, and still support a family?

Am I to double my pension, before I can 'live comfortably'?

Wake up and smell the roses.

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Old 06-26-2016, 09:57 PM
 
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???

A married man can support a family, but a single guy can not 'live comfortably' off $32k??

What about us guys who earn half that much, and still support a family?

Am I to double my pension, before I can 'live comfortably'?

Wake up and smell the roses.


Yes, trying to go out with different woman and spend money as a man making 32K along with a car payment is not possible.
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Yes, trying to go out with different woman and spend money as a man making 32K along with a car payment is not possible.
That is interesting.

To support a family, own a house, a couple vehicles, etc, costs so much less than for a single guy trying to flash money to attract females.



From your observation, I wonder, these girls that are being attracted by your loose spending, are they the type of girls that you want in your life?



When I was on Active Duty, I made a lot more money and then every 4 years I got a re-enlistment bonus. The re-enlistment bonuses were usually around $60k back then [they have since been increased to $90k]. I have known a lot of guys who bought sports cars and blew through all of that extra cash in their effort to attract party girls. I am not sure that it ever did those guys any benefit.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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That is interesting.

To support a family, own a house, a couple vehicles, etc, costs so much less than for a single guy trying to flash money to attract females.
While it is true that many people try to "flash" money, the other poster is also correct about trying to "find the one" even without flashy spending.

I've been in long term relationships where going out 1x/week and doing little inexpensive things during the week was the norm.

When your going out (through) several woman or first dates... even inexpensive ones or just the gas adds up.

"Dating" is a large line item on my budget and while I have gone to ocasional nice reasturants.... the float down the river we took Saturday is more normal.

Still drove, paid to park ($3, but it goes into the budget) bought some snacks and beer, and grabbed some wings ($20) afterwards
(I brought stuff to grill on the river, but it didn't happen)

Cheap date, but much more expensive (~$45-50 all inclusive) than if I'd of stayed at home.

Go on several dates a month (several first dates and a couple seconds or thirds when your interested) and daring easily costs more than a car payment (or so I understand... never having had one of those.)

Believe me, I'm very aware. I LIKE to play with my budget, so I do so often.... but I'm also not QUITE a hermit, and... I like women.
So...
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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OP, you can do it short term. It's not a long term option. Plan on rent going up every year - that is a given. Once the car is paid off, start saving for a house. It sounds like a good job with lots of benes.
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Old 06-27-2016, 05:26 PM
 
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While it is true that many people try to "flash" money, the other poster is also correct about trying to "find the one" even without flashy spending.

I've been in long term relationships where going out 1x/week and doing little inexpensive things during the week was the norm.

When your going out (through) several woman or first dates... even inexpensive ones or just the gas adds up.

"Dating" is a large line item on my budget and while I have gone to ocasional nice reasturants.... the float down the river we took Saturday is more normal.

Still drove, paid to park ($3, but it goes into the budget) bought some snacks and beer, and grabbed some wings ($20) afterwards
(I brought stuff to grill on the river, but it didn't happen)

Cheap date, but much more expensive (~$45-50 all inclusive) than if I'd of stayed at home.

Go on several dates a month (several first dates and a couple seconds or thirds when your interested) and daring easily costs more than a car payment (or so I understand... never having had one of those.)

Believe me, I'm very aware. I LIKE to play with my budget, so I do so often.... but I'm also not QUITE a hermit, and... I like women.
So...
That was my point, if you hit it off with someone and go out 3 times you will be spending over a $100.
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