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Old 08-30-2016, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Is the OP more interested in saving power costs even if the total cost to save are way out of line and make no financial sense? Spending $12,000 to save some small fraction of the electric bill makes no sense if the payback is 20, 30, or 40 years.

The $12,000 hasn't saved enough and the OP wants to spend even more money. What am I missing about the logic of this?

The most efficient way to save on the electric bill is to down size and to just shut things off.
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Old 08-30-2016, 05:27 AM
 
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Is the OP more interested in saving power costs even if the total cost to save are way out of line and make no financial sense? Spending $12,000 to save some small fraction of the electric bill makes no sense if the payback is 20, 30, or 40 years.

The $12,000 hasn't saved enough and the OP wants to spend even more money. What am I missing about the logic of this?

The most efficient way to save on the electric bill is to down size and to just shut things off.
I didn't spend $12k. I applied and received a grant from the state. It was a very welcomed gift.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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I didn't spend $12k. I applied and received a grant from the state. It was a very welcomed gift.
It might be interesting for some CD posters to know which state you are in and how you found the grant.
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Old 08-30-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I didn't spend $12k. I applied and received a grant from the state. It was a very welcomed gift.
A grant is just money from the tax payers. Normally a grant is for some form of collegiate study, not a hand out. Whether you paid for it or the tax payers it still makes little sense in the big picture.
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:58 PM
 
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Turn the breaker off to an electric water heater early evening. Turn it on maybe 12 hours later. This can be done with a timer that does it for you. You can also set your heating thermostat to turn off at 7pm and on at 7am. It will never get colder than low 60's or high 50's. It will come on at 7am and heat the dwelling. So, you'll be saving 50% of the energy to run the water heater and central heat since those two sources won't run but 12 hours a day = 50%.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:29 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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1st question ... are you on a 'smart meter'? charging you peak rates during different times of day?
If so, get timers for ALL resistance heating devices. (No heat, laundry, oven, or hair dryer during peak rates)

A tri-level is a challenge and pain for heating / comfort, (so is living in the depth of forest / trees).

We had one once, we remodeled to add kitchen at lower level, so the upstairs was never / seldom used in winter. Below ground areas are much ezr to make comfortable.


OP has not disclosed climate zone, so unaware of AC needs and wind / weather changes.
OP seems to know what she wants, I would take down the trees and get some sun. House and health will improve with sunlight.

I have a single mom renter in a farm house and she uses a LOT of electricity. (she is VERY hard on my rental)

1) pre- warming the floors so the kid's feet aren't cold
2) pre-warming the bath tub so the kids aren't cold
3) 60F AC in middle of summer so kids are not hot (24 x 7 indoors rather than playing outdoors)
4) zillion loads of laundry / day cuz kids like to play 'dress-up' (we used 7 gal water / day as a couple in same house, she uses 200+ gal / day)

everyone / situation is different.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Rural Central Texas
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A propane fireplace insert is not very cost effective.
I guess that depends on the insert and fireplace. My first year I used over 400lbs of propane heating with the central furnace. The next year I used the propane log insert instead and only went through 170lbs of propane, and the house was much more comfortable.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:44 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I guess that depends on the insert and fireplace. My first year I used over 400lbs of propane heating with the central furnace. The next year I used the propane log insert instead and only went through 170lbs of propane, and the house was much more comfortable.
that might have something to do with this.
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Rural Central Texas
OP has not said where she resides.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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I am in the North East.
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Old 08-31-2016, 09:16 AM
 
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I am in the North East.
That is a US state I am not familiar with.
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