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Old 03-07-2017, 01:27 AM
 
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My plain old Prius gets 50 mpg. Can't really see the financial appeal of any other cars based on fuel savings.

15,000 miles per year / 50 mpg x $2 per gallon = $600.

If charging an EV to go 15,000 miles per year cost more than $50, I'm not really interested. I'd need to save a substantial amount of money to deal with remembering to charge it, limited max range, dwindling range as the battery ages and having to find places to charge on the road.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Boston Suburb
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My plain old Prius gets 50 mpg. Can't really see the financial appeal of any other cars based on fuel savings.

15,000 miles per year / 50 mpg x $2 per gallon = $600.

If charging an EV to go 15,000 miles per year cost more than $50, I'm not really interested. I'd need to save a substantial amount of money to deal with remembering to charge it, limited max range, dwindling range as the battery ages and having to find places to charge on the road.
At this time, the Prius Prime has tax incentives that makes it cheaper and better deal than a similar car or a plain old Prius. I really like it if not for the lack of spare tire.
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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the models s goes 270 miles on a full charge. not worth it to me
My BIL has one...in the UK, where he's never driving an excessive distance, it works well.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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At this time, the Prius Prime has tax incentives that makes it cheaper and better deal than a similar car or a plain old Prius. I really like it if not for the lack of spare tire.
Probably the best choice if you benefit from the tax incentive (I wouldn't) and you're looking to spend ~$22k on a car. It would probably be my first choice if I had to buy something new..granted, even if plugged in everyday I'd probably only save ~$200/year on fuel. That's not all that exciting, but hey, if the plug is basically a free option after tax incentives than go for it.
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Old 03-12-2017, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Way up high
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The issue is they don't have any horsepower to move out of the way when you need to
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Old 03-12-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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The issue is they don't have any horsepower to move out of the way when you need to
I can see that 0-60mph in 10.2 seconds is not fast enough.

You need that 0-60 to be less than 4 seconds.
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Old 03-13-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Way up high
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I can see that 0-60mph in 10.2 seconds is not fast enough.

You need that 0-60 to be less than 4 seconds.

No but you need it to be faster than 10.2 seconds when an 18 wheeler is coming up your ass
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Old 03-13-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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No but you need it to be faster than 10.2 seconds when an 18 wheeler is coming up your ass
I see, so you feel that you 'need' acceleration faster than a 70's muscle car, for when you cut-off trucks.
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:01 AM
 
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My plain old Prius gets 50 mpg. Can't really see the financial appeal of any other cars based on fuel savings.

15,000 miles per year / 50 mpg x $2 per gallon = $600.

If charging an EV to go 15,000 miles per year cost more than $50, I'm not really interested. I'd need to save a substantial amount of money to deal with remembering to charge it, limited max range, dwindling range as the battery ages and having to find places to charge on the road.
At a certain point, it just doesn't matter with the incremental improvements and savings. I wouldn't suggest you swap your Prius for an EV as you're already pretty efficient, though count yourself fortunate for having $2/gal gas.

My wife drives about 22K miles a year and effectively costs her $.02 per mile because she's able to charge for free at her work garage. This is quite a cost savings from her 28mpg Rx400h, which costs about 5X more per mile.
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Old 03-15-2017, 01:12 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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My plain old Prius gets 50 mpg. Can't really see the financial appeal of any other cars based on fuel savings.

15,000 miles per year / 50 mpg x $2 per gallon = $600.

If charging an EV to go 15,000 miles per year cost more than $50, I'm not really interested. ...
option:... FREE fuel

a <$100 Evil VW Rabbit running on free cooking oil... Worked for me since 1976. (but no HORSEPOWER!!!) I have saved about 64,000 gallons of dinosaur fuel. I buy my tires at wrecking yard for $5 and have my own tire machine. Auto costs are pretty low...NEVER been to a fix-it shop or dealer. $8 timing belt every 100k and a $12 Water pump every 200k, and it just keeps going...

I keep a few of the 96-97 TDI's around if I need to get out of the way of semi's or tow long distance. 1250 miles between fuel stops (donut shops for free cooking oil) has some appeal out in the wild west and AK and Canada

BTW: my semi-truck and dozer like WVO or Bio-d too!
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