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Old 04-30-2008, 09:40 PM
 
Location: St. Augustine FL
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Really, alarmists have been saying forever that we're running out of gas. I don't think the world will ever run out of it. However, environmentalists are making it just about impossible to get to it.
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Assume for a minute that it is limited ~ then what?

Would it be wiser to invest in the future of wind, sun, and water that are renewable energies and use whatever oil is left for those items that only oil can provide? We can’t have plastics from anything but oil and we can’t get fertilizer from wind or sun. We need other items as much or more then gasoline. I’d say we use oil wisely for the products that we need and start looking at alternatives that are FREE and renewable energies and get off the foreign oil needs.

New manufacturing would be started, new jobs created, and no dependency on foreign oil. As a nation we should have been doing this many years ago! However corporate oil influence in our government has caused our nations problems today. The people in this country need to demand better from our leaders and our corporations or we’ll repeat the same thing again. Just as we failed in the mid 70’s with the oil shortages to do something positive we are now dealing with the problem again.

I don’t want to look at making the same mistake “again” that we made in the 70’s. We don’t have a choice when we think about the options.

Do nothing and remain on the oil tap doesn’t seem to be a valid choice again!
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Old 04-30-2008, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Assume for a minute that it is limited ~ then what?

Would it be wiser to invest in the future of wind, sun, and water that are renewable energies and use whatever oil is left for those items that only oil can provide? We canít have plastics from anything but oil and we canít get fertilizer from wind or sun. We need other items as much or more then gasoline. Iíd say we use oil wisely for the products that we need and start looking at alternatives that are FREE and renewable energies and get off the foreign oil needs.

New manufacturing would be started, new jobs created, and no dependency on foreign oil. As a nation we should have been doing this many years ago! However corporate oil influence in our government has caused our nations problems today. The people in this country need to demand better from our leaders and our corporations or weíll repeat the same thing again. Just as we failed in the mid 70ís with the oil shortages to do something positive we are now dealing with the problem again.

I donít want to look at making the same mistake ďagainĒ that we made in the 70ís. We donít have a choice when we think about the options.

Do nothing and remain on the oil tap doesnít seem to be a valid choice again!
Aksarben, you're echoing the same sentiments I posted in a rather lengthy message, expressing my disgust with OPEC and some US oil companies, on a thread in the Automotive forum.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Lakeland, Florida
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The oil companies would go out of business if they had to depend on me for profits. I havent' filled up in 2 months, and I still have 3/4 of a tank. I am fortunate to live in an area where everything is nearby including transit and its very walkable here. Walking several miles a day for this and that to the bus or train station to the store., or just out for exercise means a few miles everyday on my feet. We all have our own ways of saving on gas I guess, but I work with some that have the same options as me, and they have done nothing. They complain everyday how much and how hard it is to fill their gas tank, but they would not take the bus or train or walk, and really all of that is readily available in Portland. I feel sorry for people in areas of the country that don't have the options I do, for them gas and driving is a necessity. However I feel little compassion for people where I live that complain and won't help themselves, with the multitude of options we have besides driving.
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