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Old 07-03-2011, 12:19 AM
 
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It's fine to present your concern about mercury in CFL bulbs, but when doing so, you should present the facts in its entirety. A single home-use thermometer contains more mercury than a CFL bulb by a factor of up to 600. So clearly a CFL isn't anywhere close to as bad as a thermometer, and thus, the logic used by the government in this regard has substance to it.

Additionally, LEDs do not contain any mercury so your argument against it are invalid. LEDs don't flicker either.

If LEDs and CFLs both bother you, how do you possibly use a computer monitor or watch a TV?
Depends on the flicker rate of a tv ( some bother me) , esp. large screens. You can set a monitor on computers.

In any case, I think it is absurd to use the new bulb. Rotten lighting for reading.
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Old 07-03-2011, 12:55 PM
 
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how?

why would you see it 'over time' but not right after installing them? look at your historical data (available from poco) for the 12/mo prior to installing the CFL's. That will tell you the truth. You're either saving money or you're not. There is no "break-in" period.

Anyhow, you can expect to save around $10/mo if you use a lot of lights.

Your water heater and hvac will consume the most power. Turn those down if you really need to save some energy.

What's POCO?
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Old 07-04-2011, 07:50 PM
 
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Depends on the flicker rate of a tv ( some bother me) , esp. large screens. You can set a monitor on computers.

In any case, I think it is absurd to use the new bulb. Rotten lighting for reading.
How can you set the cfl/led flicker rate of a monitor?

LEDs are rotten for reading? I find that hard to believe.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:28 PM
 
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How can you set the cfl/led flicker rate of a monitor?
On my Windows XP computers, you right-click on the desktop, select "Properties", then "Settings", "Advanced", and then click on the "Monitor" tab. Refresh rate has a dropdown box to change the setting.

Don't ask me about Win7, Vista, or anything Apple, 'cause I dunno how to do those.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:38 PM
 
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On my Windows XP computers, you right-click on the desktop, select "Properties", then "Settings", "Advanced", and then click on the "Monitor" tab. Refresh rate has a dropdown box to change the setting.

Don't ask me about Win7, Vista, or anything Apple, 'cause I dunno how to do those.
That setting is for CRT monitors (which do not have CFL/LED backlighting). It does nothing in LCD monitors.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:45 PM
 
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That setting is for CRT monitors (which do not have CFL/LED backlighting). It does nothing in LCD monitors.
Funnily enough, it's on my laptop that way, too. And that's most certainly not a CRT! I'm guessing anything else would be in the monitor settings in the programming provided by the manufacturer.
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Old 07-05-2011, 11:00 PM
 
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I have a bathroom fixture that requires two bulbs. You definitely can tell the 40 watt CFL replacement does give the same usable light.I have also noticed that my town has changed to LED traffic lights and alot fo them have LEDs burnt out in a pretty short time.
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Old 07-06-2011, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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alot fo them have LEDs burnt out in a pretty short time.
Then they're buying poor quality. A quality LED will last quite a long time.
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Old 07-06-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: West Orange, NJ
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We use CFL bulbs in areas where lighting quality is less important, and LEDs where light quality is important.

We haven't paid for electricity in years (solar panels + gas furnace).
i may have asked you this before because i think i remember you mentioning this, but who did you have install your solar panels? i want to look into this, and the company i spoke to wasn't really impressing me.
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Old 07-07-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Then they're buying poor quality. A quality LED will last quite a long time.
Rich citizens whining about their taxes are forcing them to buy poor quality.
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