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Old 01-25-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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And like I said, you need to pick different terms to describe what you're trying to say. Asset has two definitions, one is the accounting notion the other essentially means "useful/desirable". For example, "Jim is a real asset to the team". A home is an asset in the first sense, not the second. Nobody thinks having an underwater home is useful or desirable...
...except for fish.

 
Old 01-25-2011, 10:55 PM
 
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In an Accounting term, this is correct.

Correct.

And in life it is not.
 
Old 01-26-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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Correct.

And in life it is not.
If you can make a profit out of it then yes. Also rental properties.
 
Old 01-27-2011, 11:48 PM
 
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If you can make a profit out of it then yes. Also rental properties.
You musta missed the "$50K loss" bit...
 
Old 01-28-2011, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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I am just talking about what I am seeing on the road.
But I have no idea what you're trying to convey. Use actual language, not slang.
 
Old 01-28-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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You musta missed the "$50K loss" bit...
It's still an asset. Not a liquid asset, as it really has no liquid value until it's sold. But as a physical thing you own, it's an asset. The mortgage is a liability, even if you ow les than the house is worth.

You seem to think the asset is the DIFFERENCE between what you owe and what the asset is worth at the time. It is not. And just like your inane use of "trim" you can't just make up crap to suit yourself and be able to carry on an actual conversation with adults.
 
Old 01-28-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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You musta missed the "$50K loss" bit...
House is an Asset but is it an asset to the individual who bought the house? It can go both ways.
 
Old 01-28-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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It's still an asset. Not a liquid asset, as it really has no liquid value until it's sold. But as a physical thing you own, it's an asset. The mortgage is a liability, even if you ow les than the house is worth.

You seem to think the asset is the DIFFERENCE between what you owe and what the asset is worth at the time. It is not. And just like your inane use of "trim" you can't just make up crap to suit yourself and be able to carry on an actual conversation with adults.


No, I understand that 'in the accounting book' a 150K House is in the asset column, with a 200K morgage in the Loss/Debt column.

However, in the 'real world' (As opposed to the 'accounting world')

The Morgage and the house are inexorably connected. Yasee, with a morgage, you DON'T OWN THE HOUSE.

You AND THE BANK own the house.

All you own is your Equity IN the house.

And when you DON'T HAVE ANY... You have no asset.

Think you own your house that your $50K underwater in?
Try to sell it without the bank 'letting you'


THEN get back to me.
 
Old 01-28-2011, 03:12 PM
 
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And just like your inane use of "trim" you can't just make up crap to suit yourself and be able to carry on an actual conversation with adults.
Care to explain yourself since I have no idea WTF you mean?

-BTW.. Poor attempt at an insult.
 
Old 01-28-2011, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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House is an Asset but is it an asset to the individual who bought the house? It can go both ways.
Its an asset to whoever owns it, that would be the individual that brought the house.
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