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Old 06-12-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Amelia View
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Default Photo of mud ball on lily pad -- what is it?

I found this round ball of mud, small grass clippings and bits of leaves sitting on a lily pad this morning in my little pond. Does anyone have a clue what put it there? Not a human - either an animal purposely made it and left it there or is there some kind of bird that makes them and accidentally dropped it?



And a closeup

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Old 06-12-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Is it some kind of beatle nest?

Has the OP noticed any slug-like larva in the pond or on the lily pad leaves? What is that white worm looking thing in the photo between the edge of the pad and that mud ball?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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Poop
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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I'm thinking an insect of some sort - like a wasp, mud dauber or? I know some people think their poop is a work of art but this looks like it was engineered. Very interesting photo (even if it turns out to be poop!) I hope we get a definitive answer! If it's an insect it must be able to survive in water (or else this nest builder was pretty careless).
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Maybe it's an Oak gall ball: http://www.google.com/search?q=oak+gall&hl=en&rlz=1W1GGNI_enUS487&prmd=i mvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PXnXT_j2E8 f20gGy9cT2Ag&sqi=2&ved=0CHYQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=924
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:52 AM
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I don't think it is a gall. I've cut open lots of galls and never seen anything like this photo. I go for poop. like maybe from an owl or larger bird.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I don't think it is a gall. I've cut open lots of galls and never seen anything like this photo. I go for poop. like maybe from an owl or larger bird.


I was thinking that it was a gall that had started to decompose. We are not necessarily seeing a fresh scat picture. It could have been floating and decomposing in the pond for some time and was deposited on the pad by wind and waves.


Actually; the size of the round ball would probably be a greater clue to it's identity. Oak Galls are about an inch to an inch and a half in size. Fleming Island in Alaska I do not think of as having too many grass eaters – but I could be wrong (the Google Earth picture makes it look like a lot of mature forest). Maybe they also don't have Oak trees?


PS I don't think that dung beetles like cold climates – but I could also be wrong.

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I don't know what it is but I can tell you it's not bird poop. Predatory birds usually have pellet poop. I've seen owl poop and that's not it.

It LOOKS like the balls dung beetles roll around but they live in dry climates. No way it would end up on a lily pad in a pond. Dung beetles lay their eggs in balls of poop. I bet there are eggs in this ball too. Even looks like there is an air hole on the top.
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