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Old 07-28-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Thank all of you above.

Let me make a summary,

1) Gas mower: higher maintenance; Noises;Need a vehicle large enough to get it to shop service.

2)Electric mower
a.coldless: Heavy; battery run down quickly if the grass is heavy or tall
b.cold:lightweigh; low maintenance, good for small yard

3)manual mower: pets & disease will be coming when cut short

So I am shrinking down to a string electric mower or a manual mower. there is a push reel mower with trimmer function
Amazon.com: Fiskars 6201 18-Inch Staysharp Max Push Reel Lawn Mower: Patio, Lawn & Garden, Any suggestion ?


Did I miss something? am I correct?
I really appreciate the information all of you give me.
by the way, I live in colorado, Grass is called "KBG".
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:37 PM
 
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after the mower, should I buy trimmer and sweeper to make the yard nice and clean? I found landscapping companies often use 3 things to finish lawn mower.
Any recommendation for trimmer and sweeper?
Thanks so much.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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A sweeper? The best thing is to let the clippings on the yard (assuming you didn't let the grass grow to hay baling height) and decompose. This will add nutrients back naturally cutting back the need to fertilize.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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When I graduated from high school and moved to college, that meant I wouldn't be using my dad's mower to make money mowing yards.. He bought a Craftsman gas mower. That was in '74 and it just died on him for the last time 2 years ago. Last thing he had to do was wire the gas tank back on. Said it never gave him any trouble. Buying a Craftsman means you'll pay more but you'll get what you pay for.
As far as weedeaters, somebody earlier mentioned Troybilt. I bought a Troybilt only because, at the time, Lowe's didn't have the one I wanted. But Troybilt now has a weedeater where you can buy different attachment for it. I got the edger free with purchase of the weedeater. You can also get the hedge trimmer attachment, a leaf blower, a small tiller, and a couple other attachments I can't remember. Most of them are around $100 each, but I'll probably get a couple more of them over the next year or so.
I also agree NOT to go with a self propelled. When I mow, I want to mow at my pace, not the mower's. One thing about the Troybilt weedeaters is you don't mix the gas and oil together.

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Old 07-28-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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after the mower, should I buy trimmer and sweeper to make the yard nice and clean? I found landscapping companies often use 3 things to finish lawn mower.
Any recommendation for trimmer and sweeper?
Thanks so much.
Most gas mowers ( I should say most push mowers gas, electric, reel) will easily fit in the trunk of most cars. You might have to put a blanket around the handle and tie the trunk lid down.

Today's gas mowers are not that much maintenance. Since I am a trained lawnmower mechanic; I abuse my equipment (like the plumber with leaky faucets). I do have four riding tractors and only one small push mower. I cannot remember ever changing the oil or spark plug on the push mower. I leave it sit outside through the seasons. I only cover it when I remember. Forty years ago, when I sold these units, I would never tell any customer to treat their mowers like I treat my push mower. It still keeps on running every season.

As far as what to get with your mower: I like the 2-cycle Weed Eaters you do not need their an expensive unit. I also love leaf blowers. The blowers come in 2-cycle gas, electric or cordless. I have both the gas and corded blowers. I use the corded blower to clean out my garage, clean off the deck and sometimes clean out my trucks. A corded (electric) blower is probably all that you would ever need.
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Northern Appalachia
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These are some fair points.
OP should definitely research the recommended mowing heights for their type of grass and be sure to get a mower capable of mowing at that height. For KBG, that will probably require the highest setting if it's a reel mower. A lot of the warm season grasses do best when cut short. The cool season grasses usually don't and cutting them too short stresses them. And stressed grass is more susceptible to pests and disease.

I had a special variety of KBG that I was testing out that was tolerant of super short mowing heights for athletic fields but that is definitely not the norm and it would be a full time job to keep it that way forever.

People in the south most definitely have to edge. The warm season creeping grasses that we have down here will completely cover a sidewalk in no time if you don't.

Mowing is a pain in the butt no matter what but I still believe it will be less of a pain in the butt for the size yard the OP has if a reel mower was used than if a gas mower was used. OP should try a reel mower. You can easily return one of those if it's not for you whereas once you have a gas mower, you're stuck with it.




The OP has KBG and KBG is most actively growing in the fall and spring when it's pleasant weather to be outside and mowing the lawn is an excellent excuse to do exactly that. Despite having a warm season lawn that gets compliments (not to toot my own horn), I would never ever get a warm season lawn again because I hate being out in the heat.

It does sound like you went in there trying to cut a thick stand of grass that hadn't been pre-cut for the setting of your reel mower. Again, the key is mowing often. KBG is not the thickest grass out there so it's not that bad to cut even when it is allowed to grow too tall.

I currently have bermuda in my front yard and this is peak time for bermuda in my area. I feed it monthly and maintain it at 0.625" and to do that it really needs to be mowed 2-3x per week. This past week I did not have time to mow it since last saturday. And I just came in from mowing it 10 minutes ago. I had to go over it twice to get it back to where it was and in some areas I had to do the ol' stop and rewind technique to cut it but considering it only took me twice as long to cut as it normally does isn't bad since I skipped mowing it during the week. And best of all, no scalping. If I went out there with my gas rotary mower it would have scalped assuming it would cut down that low. It was not worth the effort to drag out the gas mower. I use that beast in the back yard on a different type of grass. I would much rather use the manual reel mower there too.


Another thing to remember is
The faster you walk with a reel mower, the better it will cut whereas with a rotary mower, the faster you walk, the more grass it will miss. Therefore you can walk at a much faster pace and get the job done faster than with a rotary.
These are good points. One reason I have always stuck with a push mower, as opposed to a self propelled, is I like to cut close to trees, house, etc. to minimize trimming. I haven't used a manual reel mower but I'm guessing it would not do a good job of cutting close to these objects.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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3)manual mower: pets & disease will be coming when cut short
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That can happen no matter what mower you use.
Most reel mowers are capable of cutting lower down and there isn't anything wrong with mowing lower per se, it's just that you have to mow more frequently if you do. The general rule is not to remove more than a third of the leaf blade at a time.
I will say that with a rotary/ gas mower, you can end up scalping your lawn easier if you have unlevel ground or small divots.

Assuming you have straight KBG and nothing else mixed in like fescue then I'd personally maintain it around 1.75-2" during peak growing season (fall/spring) and around 3" in the summer.


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So I am shrinking down to a string electric mower or a manual mower. there is a push reel mower with trimmer function
Amazon.com: Fiskars 6201 18-Inch Staysharp Max Push Reel Lawn Mower: Patio, Lawn & Garden, Any suggestion ?
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I took a look at that mower. I have no experience with it personally. It's certainly on the expensive size but the reviews are fantastic and generally the amazon reviews I've found to be spot on.

I personally wouldn't get that mower for the type of mowing I do because it doesn't cut low enough for me and for that money, I'd want at least 7 blades. On the plus side is it has an easy height adjustment, what they call "inertia drive wheel", one side of the mower can get real close to edging, a 3 year warranty and Amazon has a great return policy too.

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after the mower, should I buy trimmer and sweeper to make the yard nice and clean? I found landscapping companies often use 3 things to finish lawn mower.
Any recommendation for trimmer and sweeper?
Thanks so much.
I wouldn't bother bagging your clippings with the type of grass that you have.
Leave the clippings on the ground to return nutrients back to the soil.

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These are good points. One reason I have always stuck with a push mower, as opposed to a self propelled, is I like to cut close to trees, house, etc. to minimize trimming. I haven't used a manual reel mower but I'm guessing it would not do a good job of cutting close to these objects.
I wouldn't know. I have mulch rings around my trees and landscaped or mulched borders around the house and everything else so I don't have to butt up against anything other than maybe edging but even the rotary mower doesn't get that. Still have to pull out the trimmer and that's my least favorite part of lawn care. Check out that fiskars machine from above, it looks like it gets real close.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Prospect, KY
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The only way that I would ever leave the grass clippings on the lawn would be if they were processed with a mulching blade, otherwise you often end up with piles of browned out clippings on top of your nice green lawn....I don't like the way that looks.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:36 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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Never had that problem Cat. Only thing is to make sure you don't let it grow too much before mowing. And my dad told me a long long time ago to mow where the clippings will blow into the grass you haven't mowed yet. That will mulch them even more. Works for me.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh area
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1000 sq ft. This is tiny, really, a tiny amount of grass. Buy a good extension cord and get a corded electric mower and string trimmer, I think. Yes, or substitute the reel mower if you like, but there's a bit more versatility with what you get if you get the rotary electric. You can get one that mulches the clippings, for example, or bags them if you prefer. Neither of these are particularly good on a reel that I know of. I suppose you could even substitute a hand trimmer, either the regular type where you have to get down on your knees or one with an extended handle. In my yard though I find various spots where the hand trimmers don't really reach so a string trimmer is useful.

Definitely don't get anything gas, would be a total waste in that little of a yard. Heck I have 1/3 acre and I just traded my gas trimmer for a cordless electric one. I used to have a fence which is part of the reason i got the Echo, but without fence, all trimming that I actually do is near the house. I got the cordless B&D because, well, my mother already had it. Came with 3 batteries. We swapped; she wanted the gas because they are also using them for trail maintenance. I do need a gas self-propelled mower for this though. The yard is over 10x as big as yours and is not flat. The Toro has served me well for 9 years.
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