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Old 09-08-2012, 09:23 AM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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After a hearing today in federal court in Ohio, the Scotts Miracle-Gro Company will pay $12.5 million in criminal fines and civil penalties for violating federal pesticide laws.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said in a press release that this was the largest criminal penalty and the largest civil settlement ever under the pesticide law.
What's mind-blowing is that the company was dousing its bird food products with insecticides that are toxic to ... birds! The idea, apparently, was to keep bugs from eating the food before the birds did.

Additional violations that led to the civil settlement include include distributing or selling unregistered, canceled, or misbranded pesticides, including products with inadequate warnings or cautions.

Scotts Miracle-Gro gets record penalties in pesticide case

Scotts Miracle-Pesticides. Try them today.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: ๏̯͡๏﴿ Gwinnett-That's a Civil Matter-County
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So what if it kills birds and harms the planet

Just as long as our lawns are green and our tomatoes are big and juicy.
Thats all that matters.
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Wow.

How stupid can one Big Freakin' Industry be?
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Thanks for posting this. I sincerely hope some heads were rolling down the aisles but probably the highest head honcho knew and never lost one day of pay or one night of sleep. disgusting.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Northern Appalachia
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So what if it kills birds and harms the planet

Just as long as our lawns are green and our tomatoes are big and juicy.
Thats all that matters.
Where does the article mention anything about lawns or tomatoes?
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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Where does the article mention anything about lawns or tomatoes?
I think most people think of lawns and gardens when they think of Scotts products.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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Wow.

How stupid can one Big Freakin' Industry be?
This did not involve an "industry." It involves a CORPORATION.

Big difference.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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After a hearing today in federal court in Ohio, the Scotts Miracle-Gro Company will pay $12.5 million in criminal fines and civil penalties for violating federal pesticide laws.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said in a press release that this was the largest criminal penalty and the largest civil settlement ever under the pesticide law.
What's mind-blowing is that the company was dousing its bird food products with insecticides that are toxic to ... birds! The idea, apparently, was to keep bugs from eating the food before the birds did.

Additional violations that led to the civil settlement include include distributing or selling unregistered, canceled, or misbranded pesticides, including products with inadequate warnings or cautions.

Scotts Miracle-Gro gets record penalties in pesticide case

Scotts Miracle-Pesticides. Try them today.
First of all, you've gotta be careful of the editorializing done by agenda-driven websites like the one linked.

Second, Scotts will appeal this. Stupid? Maybe. But it's a given.

Third, are you really comfortable giving the EPA even more power and control than they already have? Scotts is probably as guilty as h3ll in this case, but even the modest observer should find this ruling VERY troublesome!
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:19 PM
 
Location: zone 5
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Scotts is probably as guilty as h3ll in this case, but even the modest observer should find this ruling VERY troublesome!
Why? I want to know that my birdseed won't poison my birds, my lawn and garden applications (which I use as little as possible of) won't hurt wildlife, my dogs, little kids or myself. They do more damage than I'd like even when they're using legal ingredients. Other companies may be just as bad, but I don't have a lot of faith in Scotts right now.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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This did not involve an "industry." It involves a CORPORATION.
Seriously?

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Scotts is probably as guilty as h3ll in this case, but even the modest observer should find this ruling VERY troublesome!
I find the fact that there was anything to rule upon at all very troublesome. Poison in bird seed? What's next?

No more Scott's products for me. Wonder who they're going to poison next ... ?
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