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Old 04-07-2015, 01:47 PM
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Location: SW London
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London, UK. Zone 9a/9b.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario
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Here in Windsor and Essex County we are a 6b, with some borderline 7a locations, similar to the Niagara region.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Long Island/NYC
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7a/7b.
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Old 04-08-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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I am in area 4 but for safety I go by area 3 as there are times the winters are colder than normal.
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Old 01-06-2017, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Constitutional USA, zn.8A
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USDA zn. 8A
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:14 AM
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I live in bandon, Oregon on the upper end of the southern Oregon coast which according to the new USDA maps is zone 9b. the maritime/oceanic climate here has very wet (around 50") cool winters with fairly rare frosts and very dry and cool summers (a "warm" day is around 70f.) so "our" 9b is probably very different from most anybody else's "normal" 9b. the climate is great for growing rhododendrons, azaleas, camellias, hydrangeas, fuchsias, and Japanese maples but I am also able to grow a wide variety of stuff from Australia (eucalyptus, acacias), new Zealand (new Zealand "flax" and cordyline australis), south America (nothofagus, embothrium) and mexico (pines, oaks) plus other weird stuff from other parts of the world.
We are 9a/9b and have very similar plant life it seems.

We are much drier than you, and have cooler winters and warmer summers, though.
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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We are 9a/9b and have very similar plant life it seems.

We are much drier than you, and have cooler winters and warmer summers, though.

would think rather yes and no. our "summers" ( approx. mid June through mid Sept. are EXTREMELY dry with less than about 9.9mm in July (FWIW, Wikipedia describes Bandon's climate as "marine west coast-Mediterranean"). as far as plants are concerned there is a distinct "drought" during much of the growing season even if temperatures are comparatively cool. most all the rain fall in the period mid-October through early May so the cool part of the year when most woody plants are relatively dormant and not needing much water is the period when they get the water, LOL. think this is rather different from the U.K. where significant summer rains are apparently not uncommon.


while severe frost is generally rare and mild with about -3c an average "cold" day (OTOH, average low temps in Dec. is +4c) colder temps do come every few years and the all-time low is -13c!!! snow comes ever 3 or 4 years and we had some sticking snow this wed.---some of which continued to stick through Friday---with nightly lows around -3.5c. or at bit less where I live 2km from the ocean. it was cold enough for me to hurriedly put some potted plants in more sheltered spots and to put covers (everything from garbage cans/rubbish bins to blankets and sheets) on certain young and/or rare plants that were already in the ground.


all this said, certainly there are definite similarities between the maritime PNW (pacific north west) and the U.K. and much of my gardening choices as to what to plant were initially based on English books like "Bean's trees and shrubs hardy in the British Isles" and "shrubs for the milder counties" or 'gardening on the edge.

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Old 01-07-2017, 10:37 AM
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You get about 3x as much rainfall as us, though your summers are drier. Our summers are usually quite dry, though not as dry as the PNW. The rainy stereotype of the UK is for the west of the country; London gets 24" of rain on 109 days per year. Our record low is 9f and the record high is 101f (probably similar there).

Coldest month temps
Bandon 54/39
London 47/36

Warmest month temps
Bandon 68/52
London 75/57

Snow is rare here, with only a couple of days snowfall per year, and ice days don't happen most years. We can grow a lot of the same Mediterranean plants that you can, and some have become naturalised here.

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Old 01-07-2017, 11:10 AM
 
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You get about 3x as much rainfall as us, though your summers are drier. Our summers are usually quite dry, though not as dry as the PNW. The rainy stereotype of the UK is for the west of the country; London gets 24" of rain on 109 days per year.

Coldest month temps
Bandon 54/39
London 47/36

Warmest month temps
Bandon 68/52
London 75/57

Snow is rare here, with only a couple of days snowfall per year, and ice days don't happen most years.
perhaps one might say that our closest U.K. climatic affinities especially in regards to rainfall MAY be with the "west country" (Devon, Cornwall) or maybe Wales though again our rainfall PATTERNS let alone rainfall totals are rather different even with those places. think the most important thing from a gardeners point of view (as opposed to that of a meteorologist/climatologist) is what the climate we do have allows us (where I am and where you are as well) to grow. plants thank heavens are often more adaptable than one might expect simply from looking at their native habitat which at least in part allows "London town" and "beautiful Bandon by the sea" to grow a surprising range of identical plants under fairly similar but not identical conditions---regardless of OR because of the nominal zone designations.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:14 AM
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Location: SW London
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The Scilly Isles have a very similar climate to you.

In terms of rainfall pattern, the central south coast (Portsmouth) has an almost Mediterranean pattern.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isles_of_Scilly#Climate

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southsea#Climate
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