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Old 05-12-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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My solution to my dead ivy is to not tear it out and plant clematis. By leaving the old ivy vines there, the clematis would have something to latch onto. This is ivy that's planted at the top of retaining walls and cascaded down. Can I train clematis to trail down since there is nowhere for the clematis to go upward and outward?
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:36 AM
 
Location: CO
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I've found that when clematis don't have something to scramble up on, they go down. Sounds like a good idea, hope it works out (no pun intended.)
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now a Rehoboth Beach Bunny
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Hmmmmmm. I recall that when I put one in my NY garden there were a few types and if memory serves me one is called trailing but you may need to hunt for that kind. Probably in a local nursery.
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Old 05-13-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: WA
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I have found that in many cases Clematis will grab itself to climb and you can wind up with a ball.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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until the sun comes out of the ground clematis will grow up. Not trying to be snarky but clematis is hard wired to climb up and grab hold of something for support while trailing plants like ivy and others are hardwired to grow down. It's in their DNA.

Also if there is any life left in that ivy and I suspect there is, the ivy will overtake the clematis and shade it out over time. Clematis is pretty ugly in the winter but there are plenty of other evergreen vines you can grow beside it which will hide that dead looking clematis without shading it out all together

I've had plenty clematis get so thick and heavy that it "spills" over the support but when I look at "trailing clematis" pictures on google sites it really is clematis growing up and spilling over..
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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until the sun comes out of the ground clematis will grow up. Not trying to be snarky but clematis is hard wired to climb up and grab hold of something for support while trailing plants like ivy and others are hardwired to grow down. It's in their DNA.

Also if there is any life left in that ivy and I suspect there is, the ivy will overtake the clematis and shade it out over time. Clematis is pretty ugly in the winter but there are plenty of other evergreen vines you can grow beside it which will hide that dead looking clematis without shading it out all together

I've had plenty clematis get so thick and heavy that it "spills" over the support but when I look at "trailing clematis" pictures on google sites it really is clematis growing up and spilling over..
Rereading my post I see where I said ivy is hardwired to grow down. Of course anybody with ivy knows that is not true. It climbs and spreads laterally as a ground cover. But the true meaning of "trailing" makes me think of petunias, sweet potato vine, etc which spill over a basket or planter. Clematis simply doesn't grow that way.
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