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Old 09-21-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: NC
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Does Monsanto create seeds or nature create seeds ? Who did Monsanto pay to work on the seeds the first place ? Did they invent/create the seeds ??

If a couple used a scientific method to have a baby thru a medication from pharmacy/hospital , when that baby grows into an adult, does he/she need to pay to have his/her own children to that pharmacy/hospital that helped to conceive him/her ??

I respect patent laws etc, but nature's creations cannot be patented. Some companies patented Turmeric/Basmati rice etc....these are cultivated in India for thousands of years, so, patenting seeds is not ethical! If the GMO seeds cause cancer (or other health defects) does Monsanto pay the medical expenses ??

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Old 09-21-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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Because, no one has to pay for seeds produced by their crops!
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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Because, no one has to pay for seeds produced by their crops!
You should provide some commentary on the film, what it is about, and why it is important. You haven't provided any commentary that would cause a reader to be interested in the film.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:23 PM
 
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Few things on Earth are as miraculous and vital as seeds. Worshipped and treasured since the dawn of humankind. SEED: The Untold Story follows passionate seed keepers protecting our 12,000 year-old food legacy. In the last century, 94% of our seed varieties have disappeared. As biotech chemical companies control the majority of our seeds, farmers, scientists, lawyers, and indigenous seed keepers fight a David and Goliath battle to defend the future of our food. In a harrowing and heartening story, these reluctant heroes rekindle a lost connection to our most treasured resource and revive a culture connected to seeds. SEED features Vandana Shiva, Dr. Jane Goodall, Andrew Kimbrell, Winona Laduke and Raj Patel.

Release date: September 23, 2016 (USA)
Directors: Taggart Siegel, Jon Betz
Cast: Vandana Shiva, Winona LaDuke, Andrew Kimbell, Dr. Jane Goodall
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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You should provide some commentary on the film, what it is about, and why it is important. You haven't provided any commentary that would cause a reader to be interested in the film.
Agreed...wish I can edit the first post.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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Few things on Earth are as miraculous and vital as seeds. Worshipped and treasured since the dawn of humankind. SEED: The Untold Story follows passionate seed keepers protecting our 12,000 year-old food legacy. In the last century, 94% of our seed varieties have disappeared. As biotech chemical companies control the majority of our seeds, farmers, scientists, lawyers, and indigenous seed keepers fight a David and Goliath battle to defend the future of our food. In a harrowing and heartening story, these reluctant heroes rekindle a lost connection to our most treasured resource and revive a culture connected to seeds. SEED features Vandana Shiva, Dr. Jane Goodall, Andrew Kimbrell, Winona Laduke and Raj Patel.

Release date: September 23, 2016 (USA)
Directors: Taggart Siegel, Jon Betz
Cast: Vandana Shiva, Winona LaDuke, Andrew Kimbell, Dr. Jane Goodall
Excellent, now you've piqued the interest of the readers.
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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So you think it's ok to not pay for technology that someone else has developed? Patents have no place in society? I think you need to understand why Monsanto sues people over seeds. They develop the technology and sell that technology with the understanding that you not copy that technology for your own benefit. A farmer saving his/her soybean seed to replant next year is, in essence, copying technology for their own benefit. By the way, every seed company that has their own proprietary technology does the same thing. Further, every company that has proprietary technology, regardless of what it is, follows the same principles.


I wouldn't have a problem if they only went after willful violators but that is not the case. Do some research.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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Why would any company invest 10+ years to bring a new seed variety to market, if that seed technology was not going to be protected (and enforced) by patents. It's a business not a charity. A business has to reasonable expect a profit if they are going to invest all the money into R&D.

If people think we are going to feed the exploding global population with the same seed varieties of 100 or 200 years ago, my opinion is they are mistaken. It's going to take technology at lots of levels to feed the future population.

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Old 09-21-2016, 08:08 PM
 
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Did they invent/create the seeds ??
The answer to this is yes. Monsanto, or any other seed technology company (there are many, although obviously fewer if the merger moves forward) create new seed varieties every year. Sure, Monsanto didn't invent the original soybean seed, but that doesn't mean they haven't created new varieties of Soybean seeds. It's not like they are all the same.

Apple didn't invent the micro-chip, but that doesn't mean that their version of the micro-chip should not be patentable and protected.
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Old 09-22-2016, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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Just like the meat industry, over the last decade the seed industry has consolidated to parent companies you can almost count on one hand....at what point should we become concerned that the food we need for survival will be monopolized by a powerful few ?

Seed Industry consolidation

Meat Industry article

More reading for those who are interested.

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