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Old 11-07-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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They will survive here, but they look stunted. They never reach the great size found further north.

Now pecans are another story, I've got some monsters over 100' tall.
My Aunt had many of them growing in Williston FL on her ranch. I used to see some tree's in Tampa.
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Old 11-08-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Sale Creek, TN
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Don't know why anyone would want black walnut trees....but
We have 6 surrounding our property, all over 175 years old. The walnuts and leaves drop on our deck and stain everything black. Then, there are the squirrels jumping around like rats 12 months/year. If you want to grow walnut trees, just throw some walnuts out there and let the squirrels plant them. Those nasty things carry them around and plant them all over the place. Every spring, we always have a whole yard of new walnut trees to pull up. I'm contemplating not planting tulip bulbs that I purchased. I just remembered, the last time I did that the squirrels dug up the bulbs and planted them across the street at the neighbor's house.
The struggle is real. The time was, people would ask for your extra walnuts, so that they could have some over the holidays, not anymore. Now they would rather pay for them already cracked and picked out.
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Old 11-08-2017, 01:18 PM
 
Location: S.W. British Columbia
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Don't know why anyone would want black walnut trees....but
We have 6 surrounding our property, all over 175 years old. The walnuts and leaves drop on our deck and stain everything black. Then, there are the squirrels jumping around like rats 12 months/year. If you want to grow walnut trees, just throw some walnuts out there and let the squirrels plant them. Those nasty things carry them around and plant them all over the place. Every spring, we always have a whole yard of new walnut trees to pull up. I'm contemplating not planting tulip bulbs that I purchased. I just remembered, the last time I did that the squirrels dug up the bulbs and planted them across the street at the neighbor's house.

Take the tulip bulbs to your neighbour's house and leave them sitting in a pile on his lawn. The squirrels can steal them and bring them back across the street to your place and plant them for you on your own property.


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Old 11-08-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I prefer to not have black Walnut trees. If you really want them, just put the seeds in the ground.

But seriously, if you want nut trees, why not plant real nut trees? Plant pecans, or English walnuts, or filberts, depending on your climate.

You can get pecan seedlings really cheap from one of the reforestation prograns... I think it is missouri, but it should come right up with Google. University reforestation programs all over the country offer really cheap seedlings of valuable varieties. There are many state reforestation programs and a Federal program that all offer cheap seedlings.
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Old 11-08-2017, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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I prefer to not have black Walnut trees. If you really want them, just put the seeds in the ground.

But seriously, if you want nut trees, why not plant real nut trees? Plant pecans, or English walnuts, or filberts, depending on your climate.

You can get pecan seedlings really cheap from one of the reforestation prograns... I think it is missouri, but it should come right up with Google. University reforestation programs all over the country offer really cheap seedlings of valuable varieties. There are many state reforestation programs and a Federal program that all offer cheap seedlings.
Most seedling pecans will have nuts so small they're not even worth cracking. I have them everywhere... just like walnuts, the squirrels plant them all over the place.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Black Walnut trees are REALLY messy when they start spitting out that sticky juice all over everything underneath it. So don't plant any over your house or deck or something like that...
Ous do not do that. At least not that you notice.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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"Black Walnut trees are REALLY messy when they start spitting out that sticky juice all over everything"

That sticky juice is likely aphid excretions. My 80' pecan trees in Yuma were infested with aphids , and it was unpleasant to say the least....but not all trees would necessarily be affected.

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Old 11-13-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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I prefer to not have black Walnut trees. If you really want them, just put the seeds in the ground.

But seriously, if you want nut trees, why not plant real nut trees? Plant pecans, or English walnuts, or filberts, depending on your climate.

You can get pecan seedlings really cheap from one of the reforestation prograns... I think it is missouri, but it should come right up with Google. University reforestation programs all over the country offer really cheap seedlings of valuable varieties. There are many state reforestation programs and a Federal program that all offer cheap seedlings.
it's not nut trees that I want so much as black walnut trees, specifically. although a couple of English walnuts would be very nice to have...

i bought 2 tiny cold hardy pecan trees seven years ago. one i lost track of in the overgrowth, and the other is pretty much exactly the same size as it was when i put it in the ground in 2010. very weird.

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Most seedling pecans will have nuts so small they're not even worth cracking. I have them everywhere... just like walnuts, the squirrels plant them all over the place.
how big would you say they are?
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Old 11-14-2017, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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how big would you say they are?
Some arenít much larger than white oak acorns.
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Old 11-26-2017, 02:09 PM
 
Location: S.W. Florida
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"Don't know why anyone would want black walnut trees....but"

This is one reason: a 22-inch diameter at breast height black walnut tree with one 8-foot veneer log may bring $510 (170 board feet x $3.00/ft), whereas a 26-inch DBH black walnut tree with one 8-foot veneer log may command $1300 (260 board feet x $5.00/ft). Not bad for a messy tree.

Granted, the OP will never realize the value of his efforts, but future generations will. Trees planted in a woodlot will be more valuable than those planted in a yard...why ? Yard trees are more apt to have nails, fence staples, bullets...these wreak havoc on veneer knives.

Plant your nuts, give your great grandkids some college tuition money.....they'll need it.

Regards
Gemstone1
Not only that, but black walnut will be even more valuable in the future as more and more large trees are harvested. As another thought, due to the deforestation of tropical hardwood forests, guitar makers (think Martin and Taylor) wil need huge quantities of substitute tone woods to replace mahogany and rosewood. There will be an incredible market for black walnut as it is already becoming a favorite of guitar builders.
I would love to be able to plant 10-20 acres of black walnut and leave it to the next generation to reap the benefits from.
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