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Old 04-18-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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I've seeded areas just fine in the spring. You will have more competition from weeds but those can be killed later. Fall is ideal time, but certain situations dictate otherwise. And it certainly can be done in spring...if you have hot dry summer, just will have to be more mindful of watering.
That's been my experience as well. If you seed in spring, you just need to be set up to water as long and as often as the grass needs during the summer. It's more of a commitment than fall seeding.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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I had some fungus issues last year, so I'm going to give milorganite a try this year..

After really being against it based off what it's made from I'm actually going to give it a try as well. Just too many success reports from it and my man Allyn swears by it and shows his results. So why not. It's organic anyway which is a good thing. My soil temps are under 50 still so have to hold off until at least Mid May

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Ok, well 2018 is just starting for me. Snow is gone, starting to get consistent rain, and temps are creeping up. Still in the 50's as a daytime high, but the full sun for pretty much the entire day has causes parts of my lawn that get the dun to come out of dormancy. New green blades are reaching for the sky.
Nice post and tip on the Milo throwing er down before a heavy rain. I've gotten over 9 inches of precip since March 1st here (includes the precip from 20.5" of snow). Ground is truly saturated and soaked. It's been raining or snowing like every other day since March 1st. Its a good thing for crops and lawns but the problem is soil temps wont warm up. Air Temps staying in the 40s most of the day. Normal is 60 now.


Got some problem areas to work on still but overall things are greening up out there...
Put Lime down 3 weeks ago and Dimensions Crabgrass preventer 2 weeks ago. No mowing yet

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Old 04-19-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: D.C.
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On the fungus topic, the best stuff I have ever used is called Heritage G by Syngenta. It's a granular like Milorganite. Not cheap, but works better than anything else I've tried.


This year I have some rebuilding to do from a mistake I made last year via by backpack sprayer. I have some bare spots in the back yard whereby I had the wrong spray tip and over did it. I saved the front though.


I have some weeds that I've killed off with spot spraying TZone SE. I am going to spray the yard with Tenacity and Drive XLR8 this weekend to get all weeds out (not that many). I am going to spare my neighbors from the rotting smell this year and skip the alfalfa and soybean mix, and instead, put down some Caravan G (it's like Heritage G but also has pesticide, as I believe I have some grub issues). Then I'm going to fill in the bare spots with some fresh tall fescue seed, and then blanket the lawn with Ringer Lawn Restorer fertilizer. I am going to soak it in with a hose sprayer mixture of Quantum Total microbial inoculant to feed the soil. All threes and shrubs are also getting Bayer protect and feed at their bases to give protection from bugs and disease for the next year. After that, I'm just going to see what happens.


I am going to get the lawn looking good (but probably not like I had it last year before messing it up), and focus a bit more on the landscaping elements. We have some bushes to move around, a couple of trees that aren't doing very well, and have added a couple of new trees (weeping cherry) that need to be babied for a while.


The big news for us though is I have finally found a product that actually keeps the deer away! I've hired a lady who gets a mixture out of Connecticut specific for deer protection, and it is working like a champ! We have deer that will literally eat a thorny holly tree without a second thought (I know, because I just spent $1,000 to replace two with three new baby blue eyed spruce trees instead). In the fall of 2016 we planted nearly 200 tulips in a mulch bed. We've never seen one get past the first hint of coming up. Today, after just one round of this deer pro spray, we finally have 3 of them up and blooming, with many more coming up! Deer see them, deer smell them, deer walk away from them. We're THRILLED!
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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Yes hoping for some permanent warm temperatures in the area would definitely help matters.

Keep in mind sometimes less is more ...


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Alright Movin, looks like we're back for another season! I am going to try to get mine back to where it was last year before the "incident of stupidity". So far I have done nothing, and it's actually looking pretty good in the front, but the back, oh the back, it's so pitiful. Have lots of work to do...
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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To minimize or avoid lawn fungus definitely avoid synthetic fertilizer in the spring.

Be sure to adjust your irrigation system per your needs not what they typically set it. Too often irrigation companies set the system frequency at three times a week for a light watering, instead of watering once a week which is the best approach. Definitely want to go for an inch of rain a week.

Keep me posted as the weeks and months progress and don’t hesitate to ask questions as needed.

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I had some fungus issues last year, so I'm going to give milorganite a try this year. I had an irrigation specialist out last year to do some sprinkler work, and he told me to use a slow release fertilizer instead of the stuff that I had applied. He also said that I was watering too heavily for pop-up heads, and he re-set all of those. I'm not really sure if the fungus problem was related to the weed and feed that I used or the over-watering, maybe a combo of both.

I must admit that I'm a little bit concerned about the potential smell from the milorganite. From what I've read, the smell dissipates more quickly once it's watered in. I don't want P-U comments from the neighbors . I'm also hoping that the milorganite will help the more shady areas of my lawn. Anyway, I'm going to give it a shot and see what happens. Pkg says to wait until the temps are consistently above 70, so I've got a while before the stinky action takes place.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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Welcome back to the 2018 season always great to hear from you.

Sounds like both of us are in the same mode now. My lawn is well-established very thick, no room at all for weeds, yes I am always sure to put down two applications of Dimension, as the second one is due at the end of May.

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Ok, well 2018 is just starting for me. Snow is gone, starting to get consistent rain, and temps are creeping up. Still in the 50's as a daytime high, but the full sun for pretty much the entire day has causes parts of my lawn that get the dun to come out of dormancy. New green blades are reaching for the sky.


I fertilized with milorganite and overseeded a few select thin spots 2 weeks ago. A bit early, but my time is limited so I wanted to get it done. As a result, I can already see what's been coming up turning a nice dark shade of green and my daily temps are nowhere near 70 degrees just yet. I'll hold on the preemergent.


If you want to avoid the smell of milorganite, wait until you have some big rain coming and spread it out a day or so beforehand. Yes it smells, but it's not a repulsive smell. I've never heard a neighbor complain about it and doing it before a good rainstorm does help get rid of the smell quickly. Typically I default to the organic fertilizers as it's tough to use some of the chemical ferts and keep the kids off the grass until it's well watered in.

My work the last few years has paid off as now I'm just maintaining. I'll probably do a weed-and-feed in mid May or right before dandelions start to bloom. I got rid of a ton last year, but need to mop up the stragglers. They seem to be the biggest weed in my lawn. Crabgrass has gotten squeezed out due to my aggressive fall overseeding. I really only need to apply preemergent to my front lawn area as the winter road salt tends to kill off some areas in the sidewalk strip and that's really the only spot I seem to get crabgrass. I threw some seed down to try and fill that in, but not going to hold my breath on it sprouting in time before I throw down preemergent.


I am going to plant some trees in the yard this spring, and plan to make a garden area as well.


I also need to plant some grass seed this fall in high traffic areas such as around my kids swingset. The grass is holding, but I can tell it gets pretty beaten up there.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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Definitely a lot more work going with the spring approach.

The problem with all of the water needed due to a lack of sufficient root system can easily run into the problem of summer fungus.


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That's been my experience as well. If you seed in spring, you just need to be set up to water as long and as often as the grass needs during the summer. It's more of a commitment than fall seeding.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Zone 6B ~ Northern VA
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Old 04-19-2018, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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What is the reason for not seeding during the spring season? With the cool weather and usually abundant rainfall, I would think spring is the perfect time to seed the lawn.

I imagine the alternative to is buy sod for those of us who don't want to wait for the fall season to seed.
Reason is the heat of the summer but if you can water it often, or if its a shaded area, or if your summers aren't too hot, then you can successfully seed in the spring. I've done it. Some yrs were fine, other yrs were a waste. The other reason is weeds. Since weeds grow as soon as soil warms up you want to take care of them in Spring so you cant grow new grass with weed control. Not the good stuff anyway. If you get to the point where weeds aren't an issue then its fine to seed in spring.
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