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Old 11-06-2018, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I want a cedar (Cedrus) sapling.
Does anyone have one they want to sell or trade?

NOT interested in junipers, please. That's not a true cedar. Thanks.
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Old 11-06-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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You should be more specific. Here at my home and all over the area we are constantly pulling up volunteer Western Redcedar trees, Thuja plicata. It's not a true cedar either, but has the aroma and natural resistance that make it popular for posts, decking, shingles and siding. Red Cedar is the even more aromatic true cedar used for chests and closets, and the names start with Cedrus. If those are what you want then do you want Atlantic, Cyprus, deodar, or Lebanon?
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: S.W. British Columbia
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OP, you may need to read up a bit about true cedars, nearly all of them require an environment where they will get some moderate to cold temperatures and plenty of water and humidity for both the roots and on their foliage.


What kinds of true cedars do you know of that will grow well in a hot, dry location like Phoenix, Arizona?

https://gardenerdy.com/types-of-cedar-trees

Why do you want cedar?


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Old 11-07-2018, 10:59 AM
 
Location: DC metropolitan area
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If you are looking for the "salt cedar", they do well in desert climates. It's not a true cedar (Cedrus), however. It's in the Tamarix genus.

I grow three species of Cedrus at my place... the deodar cedar, the blue Atlas cedar, and the cedar of Lebanon. Not sure they will do well or even survive in Phoenix. Deodar is by far the fastest grower. Evergreen Nursery, based in Tennessee, sells potted deodar cedar at a reasonable price. They ship very quickly. I live in southern Maryland and they do well here. They are a graceful tree. Cedar of Lebanon may do better in deserts (?), but not sure about this. They are much more difficult to find in the trade. I got mine from a grower in California.
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Old 11-10-2018, 09:32 PM
 
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FWIW, the "Sunset Western Garden Book" does not recommend any of the cedrus species (deodora, atlantica, brevifolia, or libani) for the low desert---likely because of concerns about heat, drought, and alkaline soil. that said, while this book is regarded by some as the "Bible of Western Horticulture", it's not always infallible (and sometimes I've found it dead wrong) but it's opinions are often worth at least considering. OTOH, many of the "salt cedars" (tamarix) which are NOT related to the true cedars (being flowering plants rather than conifers) are in fact regarded as noxious weeds in many parts of the S.W. because they in fact do way too well there especially around stream banks and arroyos where they can almost completely displace native vegetation in worst case scenarios. FWIW a tree that sort of has a similar look and size are the casuarinas (aka "Australian pines" but they are not true conifers either despite their similar look ) which are tolerant of low desert conditions and MIGHT work for you.

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Old 11-11-2018, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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Italian Cypress have done well at Oracle State Park, north of Tucson....at a lower elevation. I know it's not a cedar, but they will grow where you are.

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Gemstone1
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:06 PM
 
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Cedrus deodora and Cedrus atlantica are both growing at the University of Arizona arboretum in Tucson. I'm certain it's not their ideal environment, but they seem to be surviving and growing.
https://apps.cals.arizona.edu/arbore...xon.aspx?id=61
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Old Today, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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thanks for the replies, especially yours, marino.

Yes, I'm aware a Cedrus would not normally grow here in Phoenix, but after seeing how beautiful they are in CA, I can't help but want to try them. I think atlantica tolerates heat the best of the species.
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