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Old 02-10-2022, 05:38 PM
 
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Just goes to show a little bit of hard work and really pay off in the long run.

Curious the first year if you held off on any fertilizer including 10-10-10 or Holly tone until the roots got better established?

When it comes to Holly tone you really can't go wrong with how much to apply, but I was curious given that 10-10-10 is purely synthetic as we know how much typically did you apply to each shrub and how often throughout the year?




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I think it is, but also like the basic 10-10-10.

The two attached photos. One is at planting in March 2019 (they were 5-7 footers in a 15 gallon bucket, not transplanted) - and the other is today, February 2022. All they’ve seen is holy tone a couple times a year, and some 10-10-10 flung around a couple times a year as well. That’s it. The Holly Tone f’n stinks something horrible! Like “where are the dead bodies” bad!

On the Leylands - we have those too, a developers dream screening tree 20 years ago. I agree completely, they start to thin out and die off after about 20-25 years. We have a row of them between us and a neighbor that are doing exactly that (22 years old). That’ll be a fun bill to replace them soon, gulp. They will be replaced with more Thuja’s instead. Far less resistant to bugs and disease than leylands.

Reston - do you know about TalStr P? If not, I highly recommend a jug for the inventory and a dial sprayer. Spray the trees at 1oz per gallon a couple times a year to keep spider mites off of them. That’s about the only thing you have to watch out for with Thuja, and it’s not a major ordeal with them either.

The attached photos, they are shaded in the spring and summer by the zelkovoa and crape myrtle next to them until late in the afternoon. They would likely be about a foot taller by now if not, but that’s ok with me. These will have their leaders clipped in the near future that will make them grow wider instead of taller. That’s the whole purpose for us here on these - manageable privacy. Not in the 2019 photo the car and patio furniture. In the 2022 photo, there is still a car parked there, and the patio furniture is still there too, but far better hidden.
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Old 02-10-2022, 06:42 PM
 
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Thanks amigo! I have a small handheld garden scooper that probably holds two cups per scoop. I literally just fling a scoop full all over the mulch so it soaks in. They get a good amount. Probably do it 3 times a year, and they seem to react well to it. 10-10-10 is so well balanced, it doesn’t really throw the soil out of whack. I’ve not killed anything with it over the years. I also fling it all over our wax leaf privets that are waist high across the front of the house. I do it immediately after planting too, no waiting.

The only time I’ve killed a tree was drowning it by accident (forgot). Stick with the holly tone and some balanced 10-10-10 and you should be just fine like I’ve been. I have planted 22 of these Thuja Greengiants in my yard since 2016. Only lost one to drowning, have two that shifted and went too deep and are struggling (the 14-16 footers at install, a mistake), and all of the others have been great!
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:18 AM
 
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Picking up a bag of 10-10–10 today believe it’s a 40 pound bag for $14 should last for sometime. Do you just apply it around the perimeter of the shrub and then work it in with a hoe or something?

At Costco yesterday they have holly tone 27 pound bags for $16.99 think I might stop back today and get another bag or two.

In the spring time have you ever used Bonide all seasons horticultural dormant spray oil on the Thula Green Giant Arborvitae?

With the BioAdvanced 12-Month Tree and Shrub Protect and Feed Insect Killer and Fertilizer you typically go with the granular or liquid form?
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Old 02-12-2022, 08:11 PM
 
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Any difference in these:

Bonide - Annual Tree and Shrub Insect Control, Insecticide/Pesticide Concentrate

Compare-N-Save Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench (used this one last year with great results)

BioAdvanced 12 Month Tree and Shrub Feed Fertilizer with Insect Protection, 1-Gallon, Concentrate



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Thanks amigo! I have a small handheld garden scooper that probably holds two cups per scoop. I literally just fling a scoop full all over the mulch so it soaks in. They get a good amount. Probably do it 3 times a year, and they seem to react well to it. 10-10-10 is so well balanced, it doesn’t really throw the soil out of whack. I’ve not killed anything with it over the years. I also fling it all over our wax leaf privets that are waist high across the front of the house. I do it immediately after planting too, no waiting.

The only time I’ve killed a tree was drowning it by accident (forgot). Stick with the holly tone and some balanced 10-10-10 and you should be just fine like I’ve been. I have planted 22 of these Thuja Greengiants in my yard since 2016. Only lost one to drowning, have two that shifted and went too deep and are struggling (the 14-16 footers at install, a mistake), and all of the others have been great!
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Old 02-13-2022, 06:43 PM
 
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Any difference in these:

Bonide - Annual Tree and Shrub Insect Control, Insecticide/Pesticide Concentrate

Compare-N-Save Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench (used this one last year with great results)

BioAdvanced 12 Month Tree and Shrub Feed Fertilizer with Insect Protection, 1-Gallon, Concentrate
I’m not familiar with the Bonide, but have used other products from them with good results. The other two are basically the same thing. I can’t remember the name of the active ingredient but it’s all the same. The stuff works too! Had one crape Myrtle last year get whacked by aphids. It was the only tree in my park that I forgot to treat (including three other crape Myrtles). Nothing was attacked except that one.

I always go with the drench for the trees. I’ll use the granular for the shrubs along the front of my house (wax leaf privets)

On the 10-10-10, I typically fling it at the tree and around the ground in general. I let mother nature do the rest with rain.
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Old 02-15-2022, 04:46 PM
 
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I have used Compare-N-Save Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench in the past with excellent results on my other shrubs and trees so planning to do the same on the new shrubs.

Found someone online that offer the 2 1/2 gallon size so planning to go with two maybe three of those.

Also picked up a 40 pound bag of the 10-10–10 fertilizer at Walmart yesterday for about $14.

And got about 6 bags of the 27 pound Holly Tone at Costco for about $16 each so I should be set.

Temps going to the 60s on Thursday with some good rainfall along with warm temps into next week.




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I’m not familiar with the Bonide, but have used other products from them with good results. The other two are basically the same thing. I can’t remember the name of the active ingredient but it’s all the same. The stuff works too! Had one crape Myrtle last year get whacked by aphids. It was the only tree in my park that I forgot to treat (including three other crape Myrtles). Nothing was attacked except that one.

I always go with the drench for the trees. I’ll use the granular for the shrubs along the front of my house (wax leaf privets)

On the 10-10-10, I typically fling it at the tree and around the ground in general. I let mother nature do the rest with rain.
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Old 02-18-2022, 03:27 PM
 
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26 planted and ready to grow…


























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Old 02-19-2022, 05:50 PM
 
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Using a combination of holly tone fertilizer along with 10 –10–10 fertilizer.

Also picked up a couple of bottles of Compare-N-Save 2.5 Gal. Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench.
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:24 PM
 
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Growing strong….

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Old 03-01-2022, 06:36 PM
 
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Those looking for a shrub and or tree drench I cannot recommend Compare-N-Save 2.5 Gal. Systemic Tree and Shrub Insect Drench enough.

Over the past several years I’ve been using this product which in my opinion offers the best bang for the buck on shrubs and trees and I’m looking forward to seeing what it does for my 26 Thula Green Giant Arborvitaes.

Save a little extra instead of buying several of the gallon containers of this product look for the 2.5 gallon size at Home Depot.
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