Natural weed killer and natural bug/spider repellent?

[RDSLOTS]

Originally Posted by Rtom45

Natural doesn't always equate with safer. Roundup is less toxic than vinegar and much more effective as a weed killer.

Really? I had no idea? What is wrong with vinegar? I know my tree-hugging in-laws use many 'natural' things to battle insects, and other pests. Cinnamon, and even soap suds from washing the dishes, will run off ants.

I'd almost think diluted white vinegar would be less harmful to the environment than Windex, and ammonia.

Can you cite sources? or give reasons? I'm curious. I know we used to think the trucks that came through as the height of mosquito season in the Summer were safe, too.

[Rtom45]

Originally Posted by RDSLOTS

Really? I had no idea? What is wrong with vinegar? I know my tree-hugging in-laws use many 'natural' things to battle insects, and other pests. Cinnamon, and even soap suds from washing the dishes, will run off ants.

I'd almost think diluted white vinegar would be less harmful to the environment than Windex, and ammonia.

Can you cite sources? or give reasons? I'm curious. I know we used to think the trucks that came through as the height of mosquito season in the Summer were safe, too.

The acute oral LD50 (lethal dose to 50% of the population) for Roudup is 5600mg/kg
The acute oral LD50 for vinegar is 3010mg/kg
It is important to understand that the higher the LD50, the less toxic the product - meaning it will take more of the product to kill you. These numbers are no reflection on the products affect to the enviroment, they are just a measurement of the toxicity to humans.