Hachiya Persimmon tree question (growing, cat, trees, Arizona)

[Autumn07]

I was wondering does anyone know if the Hachiya Persimmon trees can be grown in Phoenix, AZ? I like the Hachiya Persimmons better then the Fuyu Persimmons. Is the Phoenix area heat to warm to grow them properly here?
They are soooooo expensive at the stores you can find them at.

[si33]

Autumn,

Your best bet for growing this variety of Persimmon in Phoenix would be to place it somewhere where it can receive some sort of protection from the intense heat, especially during the brutal summer months. Also give it a spot with richer soil and a little more water at this time.

If you have larger shade trees on your property you could grow the Persimmon below the canopy so that the tree will receive some shade during the hottest part of the day.

Another technique is to keep the tree dwarfed and topped..say no taller than around 10-12' tall. this not only keeps the fruit at a level where they are easily picked but also may allow you to place the tree in a spot where it can get shade from a building or other tree or beneath a structure with a shade cloth spread over the top.

We keep the Fuyu in the yard topped at about 10' with both a summer and dormant pruning each year. The summer pruning is done to take out all water sprouts which helps produce larger fruits later on.

Dormant pruning is done to tidy up the overall structure and help in developing a productive framework..so yes, there are ways to grow this wonderful variety in hot places like Arizona.

Lastly, when you purchase a tree, make sure it is at least 6 years old as these trees usually won't start producing fruit until about age 7.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to send a PM.

[Autumn07]

Originally Posted by si33

Autumn,

Your best bet for growing this variety of Persimmon in Phoenix would be to place it somewhere where it can receive some sort of protection from the intense heat, especially during the brutal summer months. Also give it a spot with richer soil and a little more water at this time.

If you have larger shade trees on your property you could grow the Persimmon below the canopy so that the tree will receive some shade during the hottest part of the day.

Another technique is to keep the tree dwarfed and topped..say no taller than around 10-12' tall. this not only keeps the fruit at a level where they are easily picked but also may allow you to place the tree in a spot where it can get shade from a building or other tree or beneath a structure with a shade cloth spread over the top.

We keep the Fuyu in the yard topped at about 10' with both a summer and dormant pruning each year. The summer pruning is done to take out all water sprouts which helps produce larger fruits later on.

Dormant pruning is done to tidy up the overall structure and help in developing a productive framework..so yes, there are ways to grow this wonderful variety in hot places like Arizona.

Lastly, when you purchase a tree, make sure it is at least 6 years old as these trees usually won't start producing fruit until about age 7.

If you have any additional questions, feel free to send a PM.

si33,

Thank you so much for your informative reply
Persimmons are yummy aren't they

[si33]

Your welcome, and yes..while i don't eat them as much as most of my family does, they're a great snack...By the way, i saw Fuyus at a local store here in CA. going for $2.00 each..and Hachiyas for .99 cents...still kind of expensive for such a common fruit..

[Autumn07]

Originally Posted by si33

Your welcome, and yes..while i don't eat them as much as most of my family does, they're a great snack...By the way, i saw Fuyus at a local store here in CA. going for $2.00 each..and Hachiyas for .99 cents...still kind of expensive for such a common fruit..

Really..... here in Arizona the Hachiya persimmon is usually more expensive then the Fuyu! I remember last year at Sprouts the Hachiya's were $2 or $3 each It's ridiculous. $1 each isn't cheap either- but cetainly better then $2-$3!

[HB2HSV]

I just planted a Fuyu persimmon earlier this year. I bought it from a nursery and it was about 4~5 feet tall when I got it. Can you tell how old it is with this height?

I planted it where it can receive full sun, but our sun is probably not as strong as what you would see in AZ, plus we get more rain.

[Mawoods]

HB2HSV there is a persimmon tree in the front of the CAT BIRD SEAT nursery on Madison Blvd/20. I have seen it full of fruit. Really beautiful. I bet they know alot about them there since they have such a nice specimun. It must do well here in the Huntsville area because it has been there for years.