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Old 12-06-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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I'm related to any president who is also a descendant of Charlemagne. I have a few British royals in my tree from the early 1000s. That's about it, though. No close relatives who are presidents.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:56 AM
 
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John Tyler is said to have more descendants today than any other President.
no wonder:
John Tyler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As of 2009[update], Tyler has two living grandsons through his son Lyon Gardiner Tyler (18531935). Lyon Gardiner Tyler, Jr., was born in 1924, and Harrison Ruffin Tyler was born in 1928.[30]

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Old 12-06-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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I'm very, very old. My long interest in genetics led me to genealogy.
Many millions of Americans living today descend from early settlers of the colonies, those who arrived in the 1600s and early 1700s. Because there were such a small number of such colonists, and because their direct descendants inter-married creating several ancestral ties to any given
male and female living back then, most of their current-day descendants
are blood-cousins to millions of other living Americans. Every one has
"fancy kin" but they just don't know it. It is of no special significance to be a blood-cousin of famous people, whether they are living or dead, even though self-important snobs believe their blood-ties make them "better" than others.

I share blood ancestry with many, many famous European and American families and individuals. That fact is NO BIG DEAL! Jake Gyllenhaal and I are direct descendants of John "Lackland", King of England & his second wife, Isabel of Angouleme, and we are thus distant blood-cousins. Impressed? Don't be. That fact and 25 cents won't get me a cup of coffee. I have prepared a huge number of what are known as "pedigrees" which illustrate in a simple fashion my blood ties to renowned individuals over the centuries. Most of you reading this have ancestors of The Blood Royal. No...you will NEVER sit on the throne (except the one in your home). There actually is one key important factor in discovering one's prominent kin in that the genealogy of such people has already been completed. Thus the family historian has even more family lines to research.

The reader of this little message might question my credentials.
Since this is an anonymous posting I will reveal the following small and limited detail as to my background, a selected C/V, if you will. I'm HI IQ, member of MENSA & 3 other HI IQ societies, a multi-tasker & over- achiever, have had almost 500 organizational affiliations, have had a LOT of formal education (136 post-secondary courses completed at thirty-two providers, i.e., at four universities, six colleges, two finance institutes, one military school, i.e. thirteen primary providers, and at nineteen secondary providers), hold four degrees & I was formerly licensed by the State of Ohio. Long ago I enlisted in the Regular Army & served 467 days over two bitterly cold winters in GOD AWFUL Korea, 1956-58, having served a total of 6y 4m 7d & received an Honorable Discharge. I've been an officer/director/instructor/counselor/researcher/writer in five professional involvements (banking, government, education, mental health, & social services). I'm.active in politics and civic bodies once gaining 10,770 votes running as an Independentin a countywide election race in California. Once was an invited guest at a White House briefing on foreign & domestic affairs.

Given my interests, education, readings, and professional pursuits, years ago I came to the conclusion that genealogical research & genetic research should be combined. Why? In the very near future genetic CURATIVE modalities will REQUIRE that a particular genetic marker be obtained from an individual who is the blood-kin of a person seeking such a cure. If all of that ailing person's known near-kin lack the needed allele the search will need to be expanded greatly so as to locate some particular distant blood-cousin with that needed marker. Enter genealogical research and the results gained by such efforts. Not knowing one's distant kin will soon be a death sentence for those who lack such broader family information. A child or a grandchild will perish due to a failure to identify and locate one particular distant blood-cousin. Would you the reader want that on your conscience?

I finally decided to reveal my long held convictions in my discovery to a relevant audience. On 28 January 1997 I wrote paper on this topic. It was circulated to Dr. Francis Colllins and twelve additional key people in the United States, including other geneticists and editors/publishers of major genetic & genealogical journals and newsletters. My original ideas could have eventually benefitted a huge number of suffering adults and children had my original writing been acknowledged by the recipients of my paper and had my proposals been adopted and such knowledge spread wide. I was ignored. Today genetics and genealogy have been combined in Iceland! Americans have yet to catch up with the Icelanders. Perhaps some American recipient of my 1997 paper will advance my ideas as their own original discovery. That would come as no surprise to me as I have been plagiarized as to my writing on a non-related topic in a major Ohio daily newspaper.

All of that said and, you know what, other than writing I've enjoyed genealogical research most of all! Genealogy is challenging, makes one really use their intellect and imagination, leads one down many paths in multiple academic disciplines, makes one a first class detective, makes history come alive when you learn how major happenings over time ultimately led to your birth, and it is just plain FUN. Try it..it is NOT difficult.

Ancestral and blood-kinship information research which used to take YEARS to discover, and widespread travels, and visits to many libraries and multiple record depositories can now be gained by simply clicking your mouse on your computer on your desk at home. Now in less than a second that click can open up a wealth of data about one's personal genealogy and family history regarding the many surnames of one's huge number of direct ancestors.

I share blood-ancestry and am thus the blood-cousin to 26 Presidents (8th cousin-by-blood to President Obama) and to 17 wives of Presidents, 15 of whom were First Lady of the United States. I do believe that most of you who read this who discover your blood ties to the first Americans will also find that you are blood-cousin to more than one American President and/or First Lady. When you find that blood-tie to a President (not to a First Lady), and can document such ancestors-in-common with any President (such ancestors are known as propositi in hereditary societies), you are eligible for membership in Presidential Families of America (PFA), the first and original lineage society for the "Continuing First Families of the United States of America". A copy-cat society with a VERY long name was created years after the founding of PFA by "borrowing" the concepts originated by the PFA founder. I don't have space here for the entire lengthy name of that other lineage organization. See the PFA website for additional information regarding PFA membership.

President James Buchanon Jr. (1791-1868) had MANY ancestors with MANY different surnames so stop thinking in terms of the surname "Buchanon" only. Indeed, he has a great number of living Americans who are his blood-cousins. I'm one of them.

When you discover your fancy kin don't start walking around with a big
head like some foolish and misguided people, ya hear now! I hope this clarifies this subject for those who have interest. It is not my practise to "write down" to any individual or group of readers. I hope that the reader finds interest and value in what I have now posted at this site. If this discourse has been enlighting for some of you then my efforts have not been in vain. Happy ancestry quest!

Please note that...

"I'm as common as an old shoe..." -Author unknown

Signing off as...

Just One Veteran in Dayton, 9:29 PM EST, 11 Nov. 2010

while you have a very valid point, you really need to lighten up a tad.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Owasso, OK
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Abraham Lincoln through my Dad's side. Also Daniel Boone from the same side even though he's not a President.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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My mother's great-grandfather spent summers with Andrew Jackson. His paternal grandmother's father was a Jackson. I still cannot make the connection because I believe Grandfather Jackson was born a geneartion before Andy's father.
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Old 12-10-2010, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Simi Valley
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On my mom's side we are verifiably related (distant cousins) with:

Grover Cleveland

John and John Quincy Adams

and Franklin Pierce.

Do you have any prezzes in the family tree?
Well, this is funny! I haven't found a president in my tree, but your John Quincy Adams was born in the house built by my ancestor, Gregory Belcher. Another great fact I learned was that my friend Randi's ancestor lived right across the road, at the same time my Belcher ancestors were living there. Randi was born in Ohio (now living 10 miles from me), I was born in CA, and we met through my genealogy group. Small world!
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Old 12-10-2010, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic east coast
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You bet! My Mom was the President of the PTA! And a fine president she was.
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Old 12-10-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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According to the genealogy fanatics in my family, we're related to President Grant's WIFE on my father's side.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:26 PM
 
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On my mom's side we are verifiably related (distant cousins) with:

Grover Cleveland

John and John Quincy Adams

and Franklin Pierce.

Do you have any prezzes in the family tree?
Interesting, on my mothers side we also are related to Grover Cleveland as well as William Taft.

Maybe John Quincy Adams - I have not confirmed this - would you know of whom his uncles were?
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Old 12-14-2010, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Simi Valley
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Interesting, on my mothers side we also are related to Grover Cleveland as well as William Taft.

Maybe John Quincy Adams - I have not confirmed this - would you know of whom his uncles were?
The uncle of John Quincy ADAMS on his mother's side was William SMITH, who married Catherine Louisa SALMON.

The uncles of John Quincy ADAMS on his father side were: Peter Boylston ADAMS and Elihu ADAMS.

Elihu ADAMS was married to Thankful WHITE, and they had one child, a daughter, named Susanna ADAMS. Elihu died while serving in the Continental Army in 1776.

Peter Boylston ADAMS married Mary CROSBY. Their children were Mary, Boylston, Ann, Susannah & Elizabeth.

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