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Old 07-24-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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Ive never met a full blooded native american in my entire life, most people that claim to be are usually mixed with whites or hispanic, etc

are there any surviving full blooded natives left or are they all mixed or partial race now?

they seem like they are almost extinct?
According to the BIA records, I am 4/4, FWIW.
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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As per my DNA test done by FTDNA I am:
61% European
20% Native American
19% Middle Eastern

Is that 20% Native American too much?
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:52 PM
 
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to be full blooded that would means, no white boy in the tree anywhere, mama and papa has to be full and grand parents on both side and those great grand on four sides, they claim 10 generations 3204 people, so pure all the way to beginning of time.

just using mathematical, I dont think thats possible, so pure full, i would guess less than 10 people
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:55 PM
 
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to be full blooded that would means, no white boy in the tree anywhere, mama and papa has to be full and grand parents on both side and those great grand on four sides, they claim 10 generations 3204 people, so pure all the way to beginning of time.

just using mathematical, I dont think thats possible, so pure full, i would guess less than 10 people
Are you saying 10 generations = the beginning of time?

My tribe was force marched off the prairie to a reservation in 1875. By 1890 only 10 families were living in houses, the rest were still camped out in tents Indian style per Indian Agent notes.

And yes, Mr. Mathmetician, both parents had to be 4/4, for me to be 4/4.

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Old 07-25-2016, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Bel Aire, KS
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Some tribal nations don't do blood quantum anymore and quite a few never did. They did ancestry proving from the Dawes rolls so if you had one great great grandparent that was full blood Cherokee or Choctaw or what have you...then you qualified to be a full tribal member. More tribes are starting to do away with the blood quantum. White Earth Ojibway is one example. More of their children and grandchildren are marrying outside of the tribe and truthfully most tribal nations are so small that they HAVE to marry out. Also it's possible to be full blooded but not enrolled because that person could well be 1/4th of each tribe totaling up to 4 tribes and ineglible for tribal enrollment due to their blood quantum rules which is stupid because it's exactly what the government is hoping tribal nations will do...marry out or have babies with someone not of their tribe so that way the US government will not have to take care or have obligations to the descendants. Also don't forget many tribes adopted children due to their low birth rate (and a high death rate back in the day) and those children were absorbed into the tribe. Iroquois, Cherokee, Comanche...etc....had adopted children. Lots of the southern tribes...the ones living in Texas and Louisiana had up to 30% of their citizens not be Native American at all but they were taken children or stolen from other tribes, etc......Comanches, Kiowas, etc....I live 30 minutes north of Oklahoma and I've met quite a few tribal members and many of them aren't specifically one tribe anymore. Multiple tribes. I think it's an Oklahoman thing.
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Are you saying 10 generations = the beginning of time?
no grasshopper, they claim 10 generation would equal 3024 relatives
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Old 07-27-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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no grasshopper, they claim 10 generation would equal 3024 relatives
Duh. You one smart cookie! Then why did you write, "so pure all the way to beginning of time", O wise one?
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Old 07-28-2016, 11:56 PM
 
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Duh. You one smart cookie! Then why did you write, "so pure all the way to beginning of time", O wise one?
Have you had a DNA test done?
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Have you had a DNA test done?
No.
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Old 07-30-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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Seriously, why does it matter if someone is full-blooded native or not? My brother and I are 1/2, and any time we visit our dad in NM, we are treated like Navajo people, because that's what we are.
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