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Old 04-08-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Ain't genealogy fun!
Genealogy has shown me that relatives of an earlier time are as human, perhaps more so, as I am...

There are illegitimate births (a grandmother of a third cousin), suicides (a Great Great Grandfather), rapes (a cousin of the second husband of my Grandmother; it was even in front of her children, and he was executed for it), divorces and family abandonment (a set of Great Great Grandparents), bitter family feuds and bigotry (a Great Great Grandmother), and unlawful behavior (court cases against a Great Great Grandfather)...

Mind you that a little was within family knowledge, but records confirm or entirely disclose the information I have learned...
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:15 PM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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Yes, I have one family that is nowhere to be found in 1880 or 1900. Obviously, there isn't a 1890. Drives me nuts that I've only located them in 1870 and because of this, I've been unable to pin down a decent time frame for when they likely died. I've been at this a lot of years though and I've gone page-by-page looking for every possible spelling variation for their names. It is truly like they disappeared even though I know for a fact that the husband and wife died in the same county they were in 1870. But my best guesstimate is it happened between 1880 (the approximate year of their youngest child's birth) and 1910 (when that youngest child is located living on his own). And the state didn't begin recording deaths until 1919 - maddening!
If you haven't already, you might take a stab at trying to find their death records, guessing or knowing what state or territory they were in. Just a thought.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:16 PM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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I could only hope. They came out in every other census since 1900, but I could not find them in the 1940. The immediate neighbors were interviewed, but not my great grandparents. Is it possible that they were visiting some relatives in some other parts? I wonder how hard the census takers tried to backtrack to get any ppl that they might have missed?

They may be recorded somewhere, just not indexed yet.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:18 PM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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Genealogy has shown me that relatives of an earlier time are as human, perhaps more so, as I am...

There are illegitimate births (a grandmother of a third cousin), suicides (a Great Great Grandfather), rapes (a cousin of the second husband of my Grandmother; it was even in front of her children, and he was executed for it), divorces and family abandonment (a set of Great Great Grandparents), bitter family feuds and bigotry (a Great Great Grandmother), and unlawful behavior (court cases against a Great Great Grandfather)...

Mind you that a little was within family knowledge, but records confirm or entirely disclose the information I have learned...
Definitely. Maybe it's because of TV and film depictions, but some people have this idea that everyone in the past was prim and proper.

In some ways, life was a lot less structured than it is now. In 19th century America, for instance, people could get up and move, change their name, just disappear if they wanted to. For the past several decades with social security numbers and drivers' licenses, that's a lot less probable.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Definitely. Maybe it's because of TV and film depictions, but some people have this idea that everyone in the past was prim and proper....
And assumed to do everything "legally"...

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...In some ways, life was a lot less structured than it is now. In 19th century America, for instance, people could get up and move, change their name, just disappear if they wanted to. For the past several decades with social security numbers and drivers' licenses, that's a lot less probable.
Agreed...
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Native Floridian, USA
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I have a greatgfather who was farming his own land in Georgia in 1870. His wife died in 1876. I can't remember if I picked him up on the 1880 census or not. But, he disappeared until 1900 census in North Fl/SE Ala, on his farm, living with his daughter and family. Both he and my grandfather on separate farms. I have used every resource I can find and they are NO WHERE that they left any other record, so far, for that period of time. I did find papers where they were both recorded land purchases there(N Fl/SE Al) in late 1897 but that's it. They were men of few words though and I suspect they didn't like anyone knowing their business. When my gmother died, her death cert. gave info provided by a neighbor. When gfather died, there was nothing on it but "cause of death".
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Pit of filth
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My grandparents never filled out a census, registered to vote, or even was listed in the phone books later...they said it was no one's business
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Old 04-23-2012, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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Yup, my gr gr gran disapeared off the census after 1860 and didn't re-appear until 1900. Very frustrating because her son my gr gramps was born in 1870ish and isn't on any census until 1900, his father was NDN and there is no trace of either one of them and gr gr gran refused to name the father even on her deathbed.
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Old 04-23-2012, 07:19 AM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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Am guessing you've checked NDN rolls....
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Stuck in NE GA right now
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Am guessing you've checked NDN rolls....
Yup, but she was gone, her son was "given" a name of Rowell and no one knew where it came from...tons of rumors one that was most prevelant was it was a "gift" from a family friend.

She was never found in the same town with her mother and stepfather after 1860. Her step father was NDN (well known) but was listed as mulatto (typical for the times). Her mother had several more children by hubby #2 and I acctually connected with one of the decendents on CD. He's very familiar with the situation and his gramps would never tell anyone his tribal affiliation, of course it was a time when NDN's were not considered citizens and if found out could be shipped off without recourse.

I've always suspected that step father or another NDN friend might be the father of gr gr gran's son but I've got no willing male's to verify through DNA.

Because this took place in the SE during reconstruction, it could be she went off west with the troops for survival. Several of her sibs were found living with aunts and uncles but my gr gr gran was no where to be found.

It's one of the big mystries of our family, we also suspect her lines were of mixed blood based on my DNA. So far I've paid 2 "pro" geneologists and been ripped off by both. Once I can save some $$$ I'm going to try the ones on Ancestry.com, I hear they are reliable.
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