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Old 05-15-2012, 12:30 AM
 
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I always thought of Black Irish as those who do not fit into the Irish stereotype. A lot of Irish people do not have red hair, pale skin, and light eyes. There are lots of brown/black haired, brown eyes, and olive skin. There is Pierce Brosnan and Colin Farrell as well known examples.

 
Old 05-15-2012, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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My wife is Black Irish. Her maiden name is McCabe, but she said sometime in the medieval period, her family name was "Macabba". Her line is decended from Spanish mercenaries who relocated to Ireland and changed their name to McCabe. They were known as "Black Irish" because of their dark hair and Spanish features. Here I thought I was marrying a nice Irish girl and ended up with a fiery Latina on my hands!
 
Old 05-15-2012, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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The Black Irish are descended from mystical, nature spirits that could morph into seals. I like that story best.
Yes, I heard the Black Irish were descended from the selkies. I like that story too
 
Old 05-15-2012, 11:18 PM
 
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Yes, I heard the Black Irish were descended from the selkies. I like that story too

Could've sworn that said...skeksis! lol


We have a castle in IRELAND.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Via del Mar, Chile
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Sounds like a type of whiskey
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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Selkie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I used to have a mixed breed dog that was very dark with piercing blue eyes. I named him "Grendel"and I used to tell people that he was a shape shifting pooka.
Irish Fairies | The Pooka

Growing up Catholic in Boston with lots of Irish friends equipped me with lots of old-timers' stories of Black Irish and the like. There are even stories of the Irish in my own family background. I am African-Native American-Irish-Scots.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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My kids had an Irish great grand mother..I remember her well..I did hear her mention once - when she was a child...That when her family were at supper..a relative looked at her and commented...'we have a dark eyed one at the table' OR black or dark eyed one...Most if not all the Irish were pale skinned with blue eyes...I believe that some of the Roman occupiers who were in Great Britain may have wandered across the Irish sea and mixed with the locals-- Just like some of the so-called pure Britons with dark brown eyes have Italian genetics.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:30 AM
 
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My wife is Black Irish. Her maiden name is McCabe, but she said sometime in the medieval period, her family name was "Macabba". Her line is decended from Spanish mercenaries who relocated to Ireland and changed their name to McCabe. They were known as "Black Irish" because of their dark hair and Spanish features. Here I thought I was marrying a nice Irish girl and ended up with a fiery Latina on my hands!
The Mac Cba, according to Irish genealogists and heralds, have their origin in Scots mercenaries (the Galloglasses), which various Irish nobles hired to bolster their military forces. They were given lands to settle on and were accepted eventually as an Irish clan.

The Spanish-Irish connexion is largely confined to the activities of merchant families from both countries in cities on the west coast, such as Galway. After Catholicism was essentially outlawed the Catholic Irish had semenaries in countries on the continent (Spain, France, Italy) to educate their priests. These were frequently smuggled into the country through these same west coast cities which continued to maintain commericial and smuggling connexions with the continent.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:39 AM
 
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My kids had an Irish great grand mother..I remember her well..I did hear her mention once - when she was a child...That when her family were at supper..a relative looked at her and commented...'we have a dark eyed one at the table' OR black or dark eyed one...Most if not all the Irish were pale skinned with blue eyes...I believe that some of the Roman occupiers who were in Great Britain may have wandered across the Irish sea and mixed with the locals-- Just like some of the so-called pure Britons with dark brown eyes have Italian genetics.
I believe it is Italian decent. The Romans occupied Britain 300-400 years.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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There's also the classic Irish coloring of blue eyes "put in with a sooty finger" - i.e., with long dark eyelashes. Usually such people have black hair, as did my grandmother, whose grandfather was from County Derry. I've heard people with this coloring referred to as "black Irish".
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