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Old 03-23-2013, 04:00 AM
 
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My wife is Black Irish. Her maiden name is McCabe, but she said sometime in the medieval period, her family name was "Macabba". Her line is decended from Spanish mercenaries who relocated to Ireland and changed their name to McCabe. They were known as "Black Irish" because of their dark hair and Spanish features. Here I thought I was marrying a nice Irish girl and ended up with a fiery Latina on my hands!

No Spanish mercenary relocated to Ireland, and the few survivors of the Armada got the hell out as fast as they could. Your wife probably has Indian or black blood. The "black Irish" antics were used in the past in Northamerica by mestizos to try to "pass as whites".

 
Old 03-23-2013, 04:04 AM
 
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After the Spanish Armada was defeated by Elizabeth I, the crippled ships that weren't sunk
retreated around Ireland and did, in fact, have many that shipwrecked and never made it back
to Spain. They interbred with the Irish inhabitants and many of the mixed traits are evidenced
in the skin tones and complexion that are witnessed today and in the past.

A myth. The survivors made their way back to Flanders, by then Spanish territory, and they were very few.
 
Old 03-23-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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Jet black hair and blue eyes,

think Jackie Gleason.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 06:15 AM
 
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Everything you want to know about Black Irish is in this article.
Black Irish
 
Old 03-27-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Way South of the Volvo Line
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Everything you want to know about Black Irish is in this article.
Black Irish
Very informative article. Sums up a lot of the conjecture. But it still doesn't rule out descendants from selkies.
 
Old 03-27-2013, 08:57 AM
 
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Very informative article. Sums up a lot of the conjecture. But it still doesn't rule out descendants from selkies.
The selkie legend is a charming one. Anyone interested should watch a beautiful film called The Secret of Roan Inish.


the dark one pt. 1 - YouTube
 
Old 03-27-2013, 11:46 AM
 
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:23 PM
 
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Default Black Irishmen:

Colin Farrell

 
Old 04-10-2013, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Cleveland , Ohio
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this is nothing about nothing reply , meaning I was bored tonight , and gave the old city-data forum , a looks see,
other then my local area .

the genealogy site caught my attention, then the Black Irish really pulled me in .
Hearing this term in Cleveland , Ohio made me want to see what people have to say on this description .
There is a large population of Irish descent , mainly from county Mayo , from iere Lake to to Lake Erie.
one of my sisters married an Irishman . I have a neph nicked name Red . I work for a company that is an Irish- American
owned . Many a years ,I worked the office with little staff, because everyone else was at the St. Patrick Day Parade
( Most American)


I'll check back , once and again to see people's responce.
 
Old 04-10-2013, 09:22 PM
 
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Sheena...I did a paper about my heritage in college about 14 years ago. I also grew up hearing that we were black Irish.
This is what extensive research uncovered....Black Irish is actually a misnomer....There is no such thing. It was Ulster Scotts....Think "Brave Heart" the movie....who forced to migrate to Northern Ireland to make it more protestant. So, your MIL, like me is Ulster Scotts.
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