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Old 07-24-2015, 12:09 PM
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Location: Coastal New Jersey
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I think America is divided between those pre Civil War and then the Ellis Island brigade,
No. I have ancestors who came here in the 19th century from The Netherlands after the Civil War but before Ellis Island opened. Ever hear of Castle Garden? That's the place immigrants came through from 1820 to 1892, when Ellis Island opened. It's in The Battery at the southern tip of Manhattan.

The ancestors whose last name I bear came to the United States in 1863. Why emigrate to a country that's in the middle of a Civil War? The North was blocking cotton from getting to England, and my ancestors were cotton mill workers in Manchester. The mills were closing because there was no cotton, so they crossed the pond to work in the silk mills of Paterson, NJ, once known as Silk City.
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Old 07-24-2015, 01:55 PM
 
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No. I have ancestors who came here in the 19th century from The Netherlands after the Civil War but before Ellis Island opened. Ever hear of Castle Garden? That's the place immigrants came through from 1820 to 1892, when Ellis Island opened. It's in The Battery at the southern tip of Manhattan.

The ancestors whose last name I bear came to the United States in 1863. Why emigrate to a country that's in the middle of a Civil War? The North was blocking cotton from getting to England, and my ancestors were cotton mill workers in Manchester. The mills were closing because there was no cotton, so they crossed the pond to work in the silk mills of Paterson, NJ, once known as Silk City.
Very true, the immigration history of the US is actually pretty diverse and though it may be easy to simplify it as pre-Civil War and Ellis Island "brigade" the reality is it was much more complex.

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Old 07-28-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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Not really famous, but a great great aunt was on the Titanic, lifeboat number 6 (same as Molly Brown). She hid her dog under her coat when she boarded, that is what she is famous for. Her husband died. He was blood related to Dorothy Parker but I am related only by their marriage (to Ms. Parker).
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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Just found out that I am distantly related to former speaker of the house Carl Albert (46th, and served from 1971-1977 under Nixon and Ford). His Great-Great Grandparents are my 5th Great-Grandparents (George Adam Frantz and Laurinda Steel).

According to a chart, that would make us "Third Cousins Three Times Removed."

Here is info about him:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Albert

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Old 01-24-2016, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Not Weird, Just Mildly Interesting
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Direct ancestors? No, not that I've discovered yet. I have one blood and at least one (possibly two) marriage connection to George Washington via the Ball family, which makes him something like my second cousin, seven times removed by blood, and something equally convoluted by marriage; I'd have to look it up again.

I'm a cousin however many times removed to a couple of governors of Kentucky.

OTOH, Tom Brady is my half-first cousin once removed by marriage. I don't like the Patriots one bit (and no, I've never met him)!
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Old 01-25-2016, 09:33 PM
 
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I have at least a dozen lines of descent through The Plantagenets Kings including descent from 4 of King Edward III Sons. I am also descended from Henry VII and Edward IV.
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Old 01-26-2016, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Venice Italy
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I have at least a dozen lines of descent through The Plantagenets Kings including descent from 4 of King Edward III Sons. I am also descended from Henry VII and Edward IV.





I bet you're also a candidate in the next presidential election
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:35 AM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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My wife traced my family back to the Lord Mayor of London in the late 1600s. Miles Standish is also in my family tree and she found a copy of his last will and testament.
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Old 01-26-2016, 05:50 AM
 
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Quite curious!!! In Europe, when we refer to "genealogy" we are referring to our ancestors, so far I followed them to 1720 and to 1370. Quite difficult when it comes to check church's records that were used before public registers. But nobody traces "race", you might find people from neighbouring countries but not considered as a race apart, which sounds quite absurd in a closely related population.

I also find quite funny, excuse me, when I find that somebody asserts that he/she is related with an ilustrious person. We are all related in Europe due to plagues and famines. European population has suffered several "extinction events" that removed most of the population, the most recent one were the plagues during the high middle ages. Only a handful of Europeans were left, many died of hunger.

So most Europeans are related with nobility, and parentage is very uncertain..and were are inbred, we all come from inbreds.

As to our DNA, after being invaded, mass raped, cut to pieces and our ancestors raped by our feudal lords, maids were regularly raped until quite recently and most of the nobility are bastards, including our king and all of them...What can we expect in Europe?

But anyways, people that moved to America went there to start a new world, most of them changed their name, changed their origin and decided to create a new society, and I find their interest in our roteen old world quite atavic, very human, but not what the ilustrated founders of America wanted.
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Old 01-26-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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...and yet George Washington made it a point to have the Washington crest on everything, and make sure everyone knew he was gentry and not anything near a yeoman, which would be contradictory to what you say is against what the Founding Fathers intended. The Founding Fathers could be just as snobbish as any noble in any country. So what?

For us today, it's more of a matter of curiosity, a talking point, or an intellectual exercise. I know I don't expect anyone to bow and scrape to me because of my ancestry.
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