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Old 11-18-2012, 05:32 PM
 
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It depends on the tribe. Some tribes are very generous when it comes to accepting members with distant American Indian ancestry, and other tribes insist that you have to have to have at least one full-blooded grandparent, or (I've heard, in some cases) parent in order be a member of the tribe. And, by the way, many American Indians prefer not to be called Native Americans.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Wow. You guys are harsh. 1/32 is the most commonly reported blood quantum for members of the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. Y'know, the people who elected him. Doesn't change the fact that they are culturally Native American and have maintained a continuous identity as a tribe with federal government recognition. Membership in the western band of the Cherokee Nation is based more on continuous cultural identity than blood quantum, I'm 3/16 indian, mostly Cherokee, but not eligible for tribal membership because my ancestors left the tribe to do their own thing in the 1700s/1800s before the final rolls were drawn up. I have cousins in the tribe, some of them with a blood quantum of less than 1/32. They're Cherokee, I'm Appalachian, culture trumps genetics.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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I'm 1/32 Osage. I recognize it as part of my ancestry, but don't really consider myself to be an American Indian.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:58 AM
 
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Tribal membership is determined by the tribe. Each sets its own rules. The closest analogy is nationality, for example each country sets its own rules as to who is a citizen or entitled to citizenship. In the US, legally, a tribe is a nation.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:23 AM
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Well since he was actually elected by the majority (54%) of the Cherokee Nation (including the Cherokee Freedmen) I would say that if they are fine with it then why should we question that fact.
Exactly.

And from what I've read that other American Indians have said, it's not always the genetic quantity but also the tribal affiliation/involvement that the person has. This guy might be practicing the Cherokee tribal ways, involved with his people, etc., way more than someone who has more "blood" but doesn't identify with the heritage in his everyday life.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The Current Chief of the Cherokee Nation is Bill John Baker and he is only 1/32nd native american. Is this enough to really identity yourself as a native american?




If someone told you they were only 1/32nd native american but identified as a native american would you find that strange at all?
In my mind, absolutely no way....
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It worked for Elizabeth Warren.
You said it, I was thinking it.
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Old 11-19-2012, 12:24 PM
 
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OK....please take this in the nicest way...but speaking as HOBBYIST GENEALOGIST I smell an awful lot of "Bloodline Snobbery" around here. In my own case I'm a solid 50% Russyn and 50% Polish and I claim both traditions. I'll just bet there are probably some very conservative Poles who look down their Eastern European noses at anyone who is not 100% "-Ski". By the same token I'd bet money there are Russyns (IE Ruthenians) who would want me to be 100% Russyn.

Know what I say? If you can't guess, I can't use that sorta language here. All the same I am damn proud of my heritage and a person who would call it into question in front of me would definitely have his work cut out for him! :-)

FWIW.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What you or I consider an American Indian is irrelevant to a Tribe (or Band for that matter). However, under the Civil Rights Act and the Affirmative Action regulations if a person is regarded as a Native American they are for the purposes of those laws.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Exactly.

And from what I've read that other American Indians have said, it's not always the genetic quantity but also the tribal affiliation/involvement that the person has. This guy might be practicing the Cherokee tribal ways, involved with his people, etc., way more than someone who has more "blood" but doesn't identify with the heritage in his everyday life.
That is a very correct statement.
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