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Old 05-13-2013, 03:58 AM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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On my Father's side: Irish men marrying German women.
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Old 05-16-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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That reminds me of a theme in our family: city slickers. We have tended to live in cities going back quite far, as opposed to rural dwellers. I think that's made searching easier.
I bet it has! Lucky you. I have mostly the opposite -- rural folk, farming.

On my father's side there is a definite and long standing tradition of people working as educators, ministers, or both. For example, my GG Grandfather was a Methodist minister and founded a college in rural Texas that managed to survive a decade until the railroad ignored the small town and it declined overall.

His father, my GGG Grandfather, was a circuit preacher. Numerous relatives from the same line were either teachers or clergy, it seems, and this was true for both my father' maternal side and paternal side, with his father being a Methodist minister as well. Interestingly, my father was not a religious man at all. He was a lifelong career military man.

There is also what appears to be a theme of being nomadic, moving around a lot, on both sides, but they all ended up in Texas and we've been "stuck" here for a few generations now. I'm sure they didn't see it that way but personally I sometimes wish they'd stayed in a place with four season weather!

When I whine or complain about having to load up the contents of a 3 bedroom apartment and move an hour away with a moving truck, I remember what it took for my ancestors to move and move and move, often with 8 kids or more, and I quit my whining!

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Old 05-16-2013, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Thanks for posting that, very interesting. Such people are irritating to say the least. You may, of course, disagree with what I'm about to write, but that's an almost perfect description of a sociopath. I hasten to add, not all sociopaths are serial killers, as movies have led the general public to believe. Sociopaths tend to live a parasitic lifestyle, abuse substances, have a sense of entitlement to others' money and property, etc. That type of mental condition or just really rotten personality is highly heritable. Many families have such individuals. There is no cure. We can just be glad if we didn't inherit that particular strain of genes!
My brother has actually been diagnosed as a sociopath - so you are right on target! He's currently in a mental institution in fact. But he'll get out again one day. I'm dreading it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:44 AM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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I bet it has! Lucky you. I have mostly the opposite -- rural folk, farming.

On my father's side there is a definite and long standing tradition of people working as educators, ministers, or both. For example, my GG Grandfather was a Methodist minister and founded a college in rural Texas that managed to survive a decade until the railroad ignored the small town and it declined overall.

His father, my GGG Grandfather, was a circuit preacher. Numerous relatives from the same line were either teachers or clergy, it seems, and this was true for both my father' maternal side and paternal side, with his father being a Methodist minister as well. Interestingly, my father was not a religious man at all. He was a lifelong career military man.

There is also what appears to be a theme of being nomadic, moving around a lot, on both sides, but they all ended up in Texas and we've been "stuck" here for a few generations now. I'm sure they didn't see it that way but personally I sometimes wish they'd stayed in a place with four season weather!

When I whine or complain about having to load up the contents of a 3 bedroom apartment and move an hour away with a moving truck, I remember what it took for my ancestors to move and move and move, often with 8 kids or more, and I quit my whining!
I wonder how much of the nomadic aspect is just being Americans whose ancestors helped settle the inner states. If our east coast ancestors hadn't trekked across the Midwest then to the South, we'd be Yankees!

Otoh if they'd stayed, and we have cousins who did, we wouldn't think of them as nomadic. So I guess you're right. That is a theme, but maybe for a lot of people whose ancestors moved westward.
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Old 05-17-2013, 11:44 AM
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Location: Memphis - home of the king
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My brother has actually been diagnosed as a sociopath - so you are right on target! He's currently in a mental institution in fact. But he'll get out again one day. I'm dreading it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: TX and NM on the border of the Great Southwest.
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I find it somewhat odd that my maternal grandmother's great grandfather, who she never knew, was a gun manufacturer and she married a life-long gunsmith. I don't recall ever even seeing my grandmother holding a gun.
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Old 05-17-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: San Marcos, TX
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I wonder how much of the nomadic aspect is just being Americans whose ancestors helped settle the inner states. If our east coast ancestors hadn't trekked across the Midwest then to the South, we'd be Yankees!

Otoh if they'd stayed, and we have cousins who did, we wouldn't think of them as nomadic. So I guess you're right. That is a theme, but maybe for a lot of people whose ancestors moved westward.
Haha, yes, my wife likes to tease me about my Iowa ancestors. She's from Iowa. I have very few family connections that weren't from MA or VA and then on to TN, KY, NC, SC, LA, TX but there were some that went to Iowa and stayed there. She likes to remind me of that group when we tease her about her little Midwest "quirks".
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:03 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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A couple things have shown up in different family lines. Men marrying older women (5 years difference or less), smaller families and later marriages/families (all probably related to #1 I guess?), tend to be contrary...not conformists in religion (Huguenots & "Old Lutherans") or politics (socialistic -small 's', trade unionists, etc) . Someone from each generation has separated and gone off on their own -- most stay loosely in contact. One line has repeated instances of depression and suicide...or suspected suicide. Other than that, we're a rather healthy and normal lot.
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Interesting topic. Strange taste in women seems to be the theme in my family. Hasn't been a problem for me, but I'm one of the girls. Looking at pictures of my Great-Grandparents when they were young, I had a lot of questions. He was extremely handsome (actually, their boys are very good looking middle aged men that look a lot like their father did. Those good looks seem to be a dominant trait.) and she had pretty eyes but a big nose and was not a particularly attractive woman. I've been told she was the only girl he couldn't charm his way around and he liked her all the more for it. I'm not sure I understand that but him and his boys and my father seem to have a way with people. But they've all married women that see right through their BS and for some reason, all have god awful tempers, my mother included. My temper can't compete with my mother and most of her side of the family.

My Dad and much of his family served in the British army and have done so for many generations. My oldest son has inherited that patience, charm and that flirty disarming grin. He's been picked out for modeling and presenting on stage. That silver tongue gets him out of too much trouble and not nearly enough people call him out on his BS. I'm starting to hope he has a strange taste in women when he grows up. He's going to need someone really stubborn.
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Old 05-20-2013, 11:33 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I find this very interesting. I have noticed themes -

1. Dead Baby - Golden Child.- Sometimes they are one in the same. Sometimes not.
When they are the same, this is a baby or child under 10 who was said to be "extraordinarily beautiful", clever, bright, cute, attracted the attention of passersby - and died an early death.
The Golden Child is the same - but when they live, they are loved and revered more by Grandparents than parents, who tend to see them as competition.

2. Estrangement - not so much of husbands from wives, but parents from children, sibling from sibling. This happens very often.

3. Earning a lot of money - then losing it. Then making it again.

4. "Old Maids" - not my term. A woman who is frequently a teacher who does not marry.

5. Brushes with fame. Friendships or relationships with famous people. General comfort around famous people. People who are almost famous - but not quite.

6. Unofficially "adopted" people. For example, an Aunt of my mother's adopted her brother's ex-wife. They were best friends and she lived with the great aunt and her husband until her death.

These are on both sides of my family, which I think is odd.
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