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Old 09-05-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Why aren't Ghanians and Nigerians mixed like the Ethiopians in East Africa?
The highest presences of genetic diversity of any humans found on the planet are present in "sub-saharan" Africa. All the genetic markers for all other human characteristics are present within that population. The further away from these populations the smaller the presences of genetic diversity. All of which means that of all the people on the planet, there is greater "admixture" amongst sub-saharan Africans than any other group of humans.

 
Old 09-08-2013, 05:47 PM
 
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FYI, the OP was banished a while ago.
 
Old 09-08-2013, 05:50 PM
 
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The answer is Sub-Saharan African vs. Non-Sub Saharan African.

West Africans are separated from the other races (European, Arabs, Asians, etc.) by the HUGE Sahara; East Africans are not.

Some of the bad sample pictures shown here are of mixed people, whether they are from East, South, or West Africa. Generally speaking North East African and North Africans are heavily mixed with whites and Arabs.
 
Old 09-10-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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The answer is Sub-Saharan African vs. Non-Sub Saharan African.

West Africans are separated from the other races (European, Arabs, Asians, etc.) by the HUGE Sahara; East Africans are not.

Some of the bad sample pictures shown here are of mixed people, whether they are from East, South, or West Africa. Generally speaking North East African and North Africans are heavily mixed with whites and Arabs.
Wrong. There has been contact between Caucasoid and Africans as well in Western Africa well before European colonization. The pictures that at least I've posted are not by any means "mixed" rather indigenous people of the Western African region descent. People of extreme Northern Africa are mainly Berber with Arab/Middle-Eastern admixtures. Any intelligent African person should regard the term "Sub-Saharan" as a racist insult, because dark skinned Africans were not always confined to parts of Africa they are now, there were migrations all over the continent. The Saharan desert was not always as "huge" as it is today, it was much smaller at one time. [\quote]
 
Old 09-10-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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I am not saying there was absolute not mixture at all. The mixing was minimum due to the Sahara. Period.

While places like Northern Africa and Egypt, there are a lot more mixture with Caucasoids. The Negroids in Sub-Sahara stayed a lot more pure Negroid than Norther and Northeastern Africans.
 
Old 09-10-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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I am not saying there was absolute not mixture at all. The mixing was minimum due to the Sahara. Period.

While places like Northern Africa and Egypt, there are a lot more mixture with Caucasoids. The Negroids in Sub-Sahara stayed a lot more pure Negroid than Norther and Northeastern Africans.
They weren't invaded the same way North Africans were throughout history. So it's not that surprising why North Africans are more racially mixed. Though Arabic culture pretty much dominates that part of Africa, indigenous North African cultures are still prevalent among ethnic groups like the Berbers, Tuaregs, and Nubians. East Africans are not as racially mixed as North Africans. Those groups are just as much African as the rest of the continent. I also think there is a misconception that some people have in that they automatically assume that all East Africans are mixed because they don't have West African features.
 
Old 09-11-2013, 09:43 PM
 
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They weren't invaded the same way North Africans were throughout history. So it's not that surprising why North Africans are more racially mixed. Though Arabic culture pretty much dominates that part of Africa, indigenous North African cultures are still prevalent among ethnic groups like the Berbers, Tuaregs, and Nubians. East Africans are not as racially mixed as North Africans. Those groups are just as much African as the rest of the continent. I also think there is a misconception that some people have in that they automatically assume that all East Africans are mixed because they don't have West African features.
Correct not having so-called "western African" mixture isn't necessarily a sign of admixture. Since there are plenty of African-descended people in the New World who have Caucasoid particularly European admixture in their ancestry but still look pretty much "western African". The admixture could be as high as 50% at times!
 
Old 09-20-2013, 10:56 PM
 
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This link explains it all. Apparently, Horners are products of migration events between Eurasia and Africa that have occurred thousands of years ago. I have seen the haplogroups of some Horners, and a good amount of them have mtDNA and Y DNA that aren't native to Africa. This explains why they speak Afro-Asiatic languages. It's also worthy to mention how the Roman Empire stretched well into Eritrea and Ethiopia. It's absurd to think non-African populations didn't leave any genes behind.



Genomics and African queens: Diversity within Ethiopian genomes reveals imprints of historical events
 
Old 09-20-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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Probably because of the shorter barrier between different peoples.

The West Africans had other Africans to their east and South. To the north their were/are Arabs, but the Sahara Desert is the most dangerous natural barrier between human populations besides the Himalayan mountains, so it didn't get crossed much for people to mingle.

East Africans on the other hand have and continue to have much trade and commerce with the Arabian peninsula. East Africans have been intermingling with these people for generations, hence their different appearance.

Genetics and linguistics are not on your side.


There was contact between West Africa and MENA populations. There are ethnic groups today who are part of the Afro-Asiatic language group. Hausa males in Cameroon have shown to be carriers of R1b.
 
Old 09-20-2013, 11:04 PM
 
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West Africans were pretty much isolated from the rest of the world until the Europeans came. East Africans on the other hand were involved heavily with the middle east and India. Hence why Islam is more prominent in east African countries. There was alot of mixing between the Arabs and the African much like in american between the Africans, Indians, and Europeans. In West Africa people mostly kept to themselves and retained their West African looks winch is associated with Black People today, and there is nothing wrong with that, and I don't see why someone would want to change themselves to be something they are not.



You obviously don't know history if you think the Atlantic Slave trade was the first event where West Africans had contact from outside of the region.

The Arab world had contact with West Africans for centuries.
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