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Old 05-22-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: SLC, UT
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Hi Everyone,

I recently got my results back from the Family Finder test at familytreedna.com, and it turns out that I'm 100% Orcadian (with only a .01% margin of error). Because my birth mother always said she was German (could possibly be Orcadian), English (definitely could be Orcadian), and Native American (definitely not Orcadian), I was pretty shocked. Additionally, I have shovel teeth, marks near my retinal nerve (found in Native Americans), and many other Native American features.

So I have a few questions for people who have done DNA tests before:

1) Is there a chance they mixed up my DNA sample?
2) How many other people here have gotten back 100% Orcadian results? How common is it?
3) Was anyone else totally surprised by their results?
4) What other DNA tests have people used? I'm considering doing 23andme (for both my daughter and I). I did the National Geographic Genographic program one years ago, and I got back that I'm Haplogroup T, but I lost my kit number, so no longer have access to any of my information, but I'm considering repurchasing a kit. If you've done other DNA tests, what one did you like the most, and why?
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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What is Orcadian, shovel teeth and retinal nerve marks?

Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing!
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: SLC, UT
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What is Orcadian, shovel teeth and retinal nerve marks?

Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing!
Orcadian: Orcadians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically, the descendants of Picts, Scots, and Vikings.

Shovel Teeth: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A9ipYvA1R_...nt+line+up.gif

They have bulbs at the top, and look sorta scooped out in the middle, hence why they're called shovel teeth.

I also have more roots on my molars than most people do, and they go deep and attach to my jaw bone (when I had to get one out, the dentist actually had to use the drill against my bone) - these are very Native American traits as well (so I've read).

The marks near my retinal nerve show up like bright green dots. They look similar to a disease found in midwestern mud, but I've never actually visited the midwest, and people usually get sick when they get that disease, and I hadn't been sick in awhile. So after doing research, I found out that some Native Americans will have these marks show up (usually in just one eye, which is how mine is). It's benign and doesn't actually do any damage.
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Fort Washington, MD
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Last time I did a DNA kit test, it was revealed that I'm a neanderthal. Biggest waste of my money -- my wife was telling me that information since from the first day we met!
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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OP, I'm not sure that your haplogroup T analysis is compatible with the Orcadian thing--Germanic/English. 23andMe seems to have a good reputation, and it can't hurt to get another analysis done by a different company.

Here's some info on mtDNA group T:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(mtDNA)
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:18 PM
 
Location: SLC, UT
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OP, I'm not sure that your haplogroup T analysis is compatible with the Orcadian thing--Germanic/English. 23andMe seems to have a good reputation, and it can't hurt to get another analysis done by a different company.

Here's some info on mtDNA group T:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(mtDNA)
That's what I thought, too, which was another confusion I'm having with the 100% Orcadian results.

I think I'll definitely try 23andme. It's also cheaper. I should've tried it before I tried Family Finder!
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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And btw, "Native American" doesn't mean much, in view of the variety of haplogroups in the Americas. A company should be able to tell you more than that. Maybe not, if it's not directly in the maternal line, though. hm...
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:54 PM
 
Location: SLC, UT
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And btw, "Native American" doesn't mean much, in view of the variety of haplogroups in the Americas. A company should be able to tell you more than that. Maybe not, if it's not directly in the maternal line, though. hm...
That's the rub. I was adopted, and know of noone from my paternal line (so I don't know anyone who I could get to take the DNA test). I was actually hoping that Family Finder might connect me to someone from that side, but so far no luck (although I've only had the results for about a week). So far, it looks like there's no one closer than about 5th cousin, and they're from my maternal side.

I ordered 23andme - hopefully there will be more matches there. And it will be pretty cool to compare the results there, with the results from Family Finder.

I'm also going to try my best to find my old National Geographic kit number.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:40 AM
 
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I ordered 23andme - hopefully there will be more matches there. And it will be pretty cool to compare the results there, with the results from Family Finder.

I'm also going to try my best to find my old National Geographic kit number.
Great. When you get your results from 23&me, please share!
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Old 05-25-2013, 11:10 AM
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Hi Everyone,

I recently got my results back from the Family Finder test at familytreedna.com, and it turns out that I'm 100% Orcadian (with only a .01% margin of error). Because my birth mother always said she was German (could possibly be Orcadian), English (definitely could be Orcadian), and Native American (definitely not Orcadian), I was pretty shocked. Additionally, I have shovel teeth, marks near my retinal nerve (found in Native Americans), and many other Native American features.

So I have a few questions for people who have done DNA tests before:

1) Is there a chance they mixed up my DNA sample?
2) How many other people here have gotten back 100% Orcadian results? How common is it?
3) Was anyone else totally surprised by their results?
4) What other DNA tests have people used? I'm considering doing 23andme (for both my daughter and I). I did the National Geographic Genographic program one years ago, and I got back that I'm Haplogroup T, but I lost my kit number, so no longer have access to any of my information, but I'm considering repurchasing a kit. If you've done other DNA tests, what one did you like the most, and why?
Are these incomplete results? I ask because 23andMe results took some time to fully load. I recommend them btw.

Anyway Native American traits can be from Asian ancestry.
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