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Old 06-27-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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right back at ya. Get a crayon. Compare it to most "black" americans. See if we match that color. Most don't. Like I said, we range in different shades of brown. Not to mention, once people get the etymology of the word, you will see that it doesn't fit us anyway.
Would you not support the usage of the term "white" then, since white people are not really the color white?
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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This discussion has nothing to do with gradations or shades of skin color. An African American comes from a distinct culture, one not shared by African immigrants.
I realize that. Just replied to a comment that isaw repeated so much that I just needed to speak on it. I am what you call an Aftican American. How I do not call myself an African American. To those that do, more power to them. It's unfortunate in my eyes but it is what is.

And to tamizinluv. I'm not a watered version of anything. You can take that somewhere else.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Would you not support the usage of the term "white" then, since white people are not really the color white?
In my position, yes. I would not support that.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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So what is a "black" American? How is that defined exactly since you as you point out the admixture of persons of African descent and Europeans is pronounced throughout the population of people considered black, whatever that means, because the color one's skin is only meaningful with regards to biological adaptation of groups of humans who migrated to the different environments that humans have habituated.

So who is black and who isn't based upon this 18th century idea that humans could be divided into races? And what exactly does it mean to be black?
My response would be off topic so I'll pm you when I get the chance. Peace.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Black Africans from Africa are just that...BLACK. Really, really black. Black Americans are watered down versions of their original ancestry.
Skin complexions can very greatly among African people but what do you mean by watered down versions when it comes to ancestry?

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Old 06-27-2013, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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If he had been born in this country. Had he been an immigrant from South Africa, he'd be a South African American.
Now you're just posting nonsense.

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I don't agree, chiefly because African immigrants, unless they consciously assimilate into the African American culture, are definitely a different ethnicity than African Americans.
So ... A person living in Africa, who moves to the United States, cannot be an African-American unless they assimilate into some nebulous and varying "culture" that isn't necessarily shared by everyone who calls themselves an African-American?

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Just as I could not move to South Africa and become a South African, a South African can't come here and instantly become African American.
Even more nonsense!

How if someone from South Africa -- regardless of their skin color -- not African? That would be like saying that someone from France is not European.

If you're a citizen of South Africa -- native or naturalized -- you're a South African. It's a pretty simple concept.
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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If a person born in the US goes to Brazil and becomes a citizen would he then be known as a North American South American?
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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I alwasy wondered what was wrong with the term "Colored".
That sounds better than negro,aFro american,etc.

Just do away with all hyphenated americans.
Just use plain American,and its more accurate.

Or is it? Because technically,someone from South America is "american" too.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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Black american is misleading too,now that I think about it.
You can't groups people together just because they have the same color.
Otherwise,you might have dark skinned Indians checking black,some Arabs can also check black too.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: SWFL
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Black Africans from Africa are just that...BLACK. Really, really black. Black Americans are watered down versions of their original ancestry.
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Skin complexions can very greatly among African people but what do you mean by watered down versions when it comes to ancestry?
I just came to say my post showed my ignorance. After posting that, I saw some news about Mandela and say different shades of skin color. I must have only seen (and remembered) certain tribes who are midnight black.

I meant skin color watered down as in not needing the melatonin to keep their skin nice and dark up in northern hemispheres. BUT if you want, now that you brought this to mind, I could also mean because of Massehs and of course by choice now.
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