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Old 09-24-2013, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have considered having different trees for the same family. One with all the speculative ancestors that don't have great paper trails. One that has good paper trails. And one that is backed up by DNA (a much smaller one).

Even a good paper trail can't prove that someone in your tree wasn't adopted, or the result of an extra-marital liaison. Genetic genealogy has shown that the rate of NPE's is higher than what most people thought. So chances are very good that you have some branches in your tree that really aren't your ancestors, no matter how carefully you've researched it.
I think all of us know that not everyone in our trees was faithful and that there were adoptions and name changes for various reasons, but the matches I am making on 23AndMe are often distant --- seventh cousins and even further back. My brother has Y-DNA matches to men with the same surname back to the late 1700s, early 1800s. What do these matches imply for fidelity?

On my mother's side, a male cousin has Y-DNA matches with men with a couple of different surnames. That makes me start to consider a NPE there.
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:13 AM
 
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Anywhere: the trees are as good as the posters are careful.
I completely agree. Iíve been on ancestry.com for about 5 years. I now have more than 9,000 people and almost 35,000 recordsÖ and still growing

Hereís my pet peeve with ancestry.com: About 99% of the people who use it are too dam-ned lazy to actually open up the records and read them. They just grab records helter-skelter and attach them without any thought or reflection. If they actually bothered to read the records that they attached to their tree then their trees wouldnít be riddled with so much inaccurate information.

Hereís a good example: Line 6 of the World War I registration card usually asks where the person was born. I have probably corrected the place of birth for more than 3,000 people on my tree, using these cards. But itís amazing how more than 30 people could attach these cards to their tree and still have a completely bogus and erroneous place of birth. ĖItís obvious that they donít read the records.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Yeah, that happens way to often. But remember, the place of birth on a draft registration card isn't always accurate. It is hearsay. A person has no knowledge, other than what they were told, of where they were born. They could be wrong. An actual birth record would trump a draft registration as to accuracy.

My pet peeve (okay, one of them), though, is about places (and dates) of birth. So many people will give a spouse the same birthdate and age, even if there's no record showing that. Like they just can't leave anything blank, and would rather make something up to put in there than to leave it blank.

I'm looking through someone's database at the moment, and they've given a burial date for everyone which is 2 days later than the death date. Problem is, this person also has lots of obituaries for them as well (yay!). The family was in upstate NY, and a lot of the people who died in winter, the obituary says that they'll be buried in the spring ... yet there he is, giving them a burial date 2 days later, like he knows something. Argh!
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Hereís a good example: Line 6 of the World War I registration card usually asks where the person was born. I have probably corrected the place of birth for more than 3,000 people on my tree, using these cards. But itís amazing how more than 30 people could attach these cards to their tree and still have a completely bogus and erroneous place of birth. ĖItís obvious that they donít read the records.
You have 3000 men in your tree with WWI draft cards?
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