I'm still starting all this. My dad's relatives in Nuremberg keep the family history book,but may need to write to cousins in Garmisch to find out who has it. I never thought to ask my dad how far back the family goes. Probably back to the Middle ages or earlier. Some cousins of my grandmother according to german records fought in the crusades, and go back in the records of the City of Riga to the 13th or 14th century.Some members belonged to an order of knights, most likely the Livonian Knights of the Sword.My dad said they weren't Teutonic knights,but wasn't sure of the order's name.Through a little research I found the Livonian Knights in Riga.Many years later they were absorbed into the Teutonic Knights.
In the family coat of arms a cousin sent me a copy of from Siebmacher's Brugerlich Wappenbuch, I noticed there was a fleur de lile in the coat of arms.This is interesting because the family is german.However, it's possible that some of the relatives who lived in the Black Forest could have moved to Alsace and France,as our family name is also found in France. What's also interesting is our family owns the firm of August and Jean Hilpert in Nuremberg.Their engineers.The firm was founded in the 1800s and I assume Jean was August's brother maybe.In any case,Jean is French for John.
Wonder if their mother was french, as most of the men in the family named John used Johann.
Haven't tried mom's side in Hungary yet. Both families are ancient, but when they first came to public notice so to speak don't know.