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Old 08-22-2013, 08:33 AM
Location: Upstate NY
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Is black a race? Yes, it is, and so is white. Race and ethnicity are two different things.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Linda_d View Post
At one time, back in the days when there were huge numbers of immigrants coming into the US from Europe and when large numbers of Americans had foreign-born parents, the census takers did ask about whether parents were foreign born and what country they hailed from. Of course, they also asked if people had indoor plumbing and/or radios.

Since it's been nearly a hundred years since large numbers of European immigrants flocked to the US annually (essentially the 1920s), most Americans of European descent have blended into the general American population and don't identify that closely with their European ancestry.

FYI, the census also doesn't identify Native Americans by tribe or African Americans or Asian Americans by what parts of Africa or Asia they come from.
The census does identify Asian Americans by national origin.

African Americans don't know their national origins in Africa, hence the term African Americans (and not Nigerian or Egyptian or Senegalese or Zimbabwean).
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucario View Post
The census does identify Asian Americans by national origin.
With over 50% of the population of the world and increasing immigration to the USA, it is about time that Asia was broken up into smaller chunks. The United Nations uses the following divisions with their percentage of world population:

22.3% Eastern Asia (China &Japan & Korea...)
25.5% South-Central Asia (India, Pakistan, ... + Iran)
8.9% South-Eastern Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia, Indonesia, ...)
3.4% Western Asia (Called Middle East in Anglo countries, but does not include Iran)
0.5% Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, ...)

15.5% Africa (Sub-Saharan and Northern Africa)
10.4% Europe (Includes Russia, but not Turkey)

8.5% Latin America and the Caribbean
5.0% Northern America

Although people are free to classify themselves as any race they want, the Census bureau encourages Western Asian and Northern African people to classify themselves as WHITE and not as ASIAN or AFRICAN.

Latinos often classify themselves as WHITE or OTHER since they don't consider themselves to be WHITE.

The census department has considered proposals to include Latinos on an equal footing with traditional racial groups. They would not essentially eliminate distinctions between "race" or "ethnicity" entirely.
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:37 PM
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It's a "race" because people decided it's a race. I mean really and truly one could ask the question about every category. There's so many different african countries, why just have them under "Black/African-american" and there are several Native american "tribes" why just have them check "Amer-Indian/Native american" etc? It's just a concept. Their way of making sense of things
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:47 PM
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It's a race not an ethnicity!
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Old 09-03-2013, 02:34 PM
Location: New York NY
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Just wonderin'. I've heard that some jurisdictions on the West Coast (maybe California, Washington, or cities or counties in those states?), which have a heavy Asian population, breaks the Asian count down into different nationalities for some sort of internal use, i.e. they count not just generic "Asians," but Chinese, Japanese, Phillipino, Vietnamese, Hmong, Hawaiian, etc etc Is this true? Anybody know where its done, and why, if thats the case?

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Old 09-03-2013, 03:46 PM
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We're a subset of the Caucasian race.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PacoMartin View Post
A government statistical organization is VERY VERY VERY concerned with continuity of their data. If the original data in the 1790 census included a count of people organized by white and black, slave and free, then you can bet that they will maintain that distinction for hundreds of years if possible.
More that continuity of data is the continuity of "race" as an important social, economic and political issue. Historically, as you point out, the counting of Africans, slave or free, was important for the purpose of establishing congressional representation. Race remains an issue for the same reason, establishing voting districts and and measuring the progress of underrepresented ethic minorities for a myriad of issues. There is no need for further state interest for further refining the origins of the majority.
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