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Old 04-24-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Yes thanks for the support lol.
In addition to all that you said, phenotype doesn't necessarily reflect genetic makeup, many mixed people can pass for just one of their races or even a completely different race. Two mulatto type people have a 25% chance for their offspring to look completely black, 25% chance completely white, and 50% chance mulatto as well.
Um, no. Skin color is not inherited through a single gene, so those numbers do not work.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood, CA
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Um, no. Skin color is not inherited through a single gene, so those numbers do not work.
Yes you are correct, but there are a variety of skin colors for both races.
I guess instead of saying "completely white" (because there is no hard definition of white) I should've said predominantly white appearance
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Lebanese people!

Brazil 7,000,000
Lebanon 4,130,000
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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Yes you are correct, but there are a variety of skin colors for both races.
I guess instead of saying "completely white" (because there is no hard definition of white) I should've said predominantly white appearance
The 25/25/50 figures you used work only if the condition is related to a single gene, like sickle cell anemia.

More than one gene is involved in skin color. About 11 had been identified as of this article, and there will undoubtedly be more to come:

Milestone 2 : Nature Milestones in Cutaneous Biology

It's not a simple matter of black, white, or halfway in between.
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Old 04-27-2015, 08:48 PM
 
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The 25/25/50 figures you used work only if the condition is related to a single gene, like sickle cell anemia.

More than one gene is involved in skin color. About 11 had been identified as of this article, and there will undoubtedly be more to come:

Milestone 2 : Nature Milestones in Cutaneous Biology

It's not a simple matter of black, white, or halfway in between.
Yes I understand what you're saying.
BUT like I said there are a variation of skin colors in each race, skin color isn't the only aspect involved.
In addition to that, solely white skin color genes CAN be inherited from two medium skin colored mulattos.
I understand that skin color is portrayed through co-dominance of multiple genes, but if you only inherit the genes that make your skin appear black/white then you'll appear white/black.

How Do We Inherit Our Skin Color?

And again like I said... "predominately". indicating that there is no hard(firm) definition of White, or Black or any racial identity. I am not saying that there is only White, Black, and Halfway between. Clearly shown by my own racial composition, on this thread, I would be a fool to assume that.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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I think here, it is evident the OP is genetically partially Black. I don't know if that is quantitative (combo of both parents) or from a single parent. If this is from one parent, that parent is biologically entirely of SSA ancestry at least in the low 90's % SSA. Or one parent is in the mid 20-'s and the other in the 70's to produce a child with SSA in the 40's.

Most people over 40% SSA (in North or South America) would be easily identifiable of SSA or Afro-Hispanic ancestry. The common US folk, may be labeled as Black when SSA features are easily discernible.

Here is Carmen Ejogo. Her father is Nigerian and her mother Brit I believe. In the US she would be seen as Black American. She resembles also, multigenerational Blacks. Black Americans that come from a line of mixed ancestry. She could pass for Afro-Latina. Of course lacking the Native American influence.




Zoe Saldana ancestors are from the Dominican Republic (Hispaniola). Both women are mixed with SSA ancestry regardless of location. The Americas (Saldana) vs. Europe (Ejogo). However in the US, the average US American if they do not know their origins, would say they were "Black" or take them as such.


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Old 04-29-2015, 02:56 PM
 
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"Latin America" is much too broad of a term. I don't even think you can speak about "Latin American" countries as a unit, because they're not actually related.

So, OP, what country are your parents from if you don't mind me asking?

There was significant Arab immigration to various countries, and we might be able to offer more info if you specify which one.
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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Most people over 40% SSA (in North or South America) would be easily identifiable of SSA or Afro-Hispanic ancestry. The common US folk, may be labeled as Black when SSA features are easily discernible.
For what it's worth, I can tell from her results that she is definitely not American because her native ancestry (16%) is too high.

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Old 04-29-2015, 05:05 PM
 
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For what it's worth, I can tell from her results that she is definitely not American because her native ancestry (16%) is too high.
He/she is of Latin American descent, though they did not specify which country or if one parent is non-Hispanic. They came her seeking out the Middle Eastern result in their ancestry composition. From there the conversation has morphed.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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OP HERE, lol halt the speculation.

Mother is Mexican, white mestizo, probably doesn't have any African admixture but WHO KNOWS.
Father is African American, his mother seemed very african, but his father was a (bite my tongue) "lightskin." Father, like many other Aframs, claims native ancestry also.

Was definitely shocked at amount of Native. Was expecting a more mulatto result, but I am what I am.


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For what it's worth, I can tell from her results that she is definitely not American because her native ancestry (16%) is too high.
(I)He** is definitely American (careful how you use that term) both mother and father were born here, and 3 out of 4 grandparents were born here. All grandparents speak english. I do not speak Spanish, am not Catholic, grew up Upper-Middle Class.

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I think here, it is evident the OP is genetically partially Black. I don't know if that is quantitative (combo of both parents) or from a single parent. If this is from one parent, that parent is biologically entirely of SSA ancestry at least in the low 90's % SSA. Or one parent is in the mid 20-'s and the other in the 70's to produce a child with SSA in the 40's.

Most people over 40% SSA (in North or South America) would be easily identifiable of SSA or Afro-Hispanic ancestry. The common US folk, may be labeled as Black when SSA features are easily discernible.
This is the topic this thread has seemed to turn to,

Personally, I can say that I do not, and Most Americans do not assign me a Black identity. Black Americans do not assign me a Black identity. I am racially ambiguous, and get asked frequently "where are you from" lol to which I sigh a tragic mulatto sigh, and ask where they think I'm from. I usually get Brazilian, Puerto Rican, or Argentinian(lol people are so ignorant), often Middle Eastern as well. Very rarely I'll get Filipino and Black or Mulatto. Never Mexican idk why maybe because I'm 6'1? Anyway, point is Race is truly in the eye of the beholder

Unfortunately, I am never of the same race as those asking (even though I am, partially), so I'll continue to play my sad tragic tri-racial violin....

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