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Old 01-06-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: St Augustine
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So I have worked on my family tree off and on for the past couple of years. I can trace back all family members several generations but for some reason I hit a brick with my paternal great grandfather and great grand mother.

I was told that he and my great grandmother got a divorce, who knows when, and that my GGfather owned a store in Ruskin, FL.

Here is the info I have:


Great grandfather
Ernest August Cuny
WWI Navy Vet- Gunners Mate 3C
B: Dec 30th, 1892
D: Jan 4th, 1966

Great grandmother
Elizabeth Petterson (not positive on the last name spelling)

Was told her birth/death dates are 1898-1989


Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-06-2018, 09:18 AM
 
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1900 census:
Name: Ernest Cuny Age: 9 Birth Date: Dec 1892 Birthplace: Michigan Home in 1900: Springwells, Wayne, Michigan Street: Cottrell Avenue House Number: 13 Sheet Number: 8A Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 120 Family Number: 121
Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Louis E Cuny Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's name: Veronica Cuny Mother's Birthplace: Michigan Occupation: At School Attended School: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Louis E Cuny 30
Veronica Cuny 31
Ernest Cuny 9
Vera Cuny 2


He's also on FindaGrave and Ancestry has 1910 census (I expect censuses also available on Family Search) draft cards and other docs.
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Old 01-06-2018, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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Isn't this your tree? https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree...56203216/facts

You appear to already have his parent's names and even pictures of them?
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Old 01-06-2018, 09:54 AM
 
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I see you've attached this divorce index for them: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=6027024

Have you ordered the full documents of the divorce from the Michigan Department of Community Health, Division for Vital Records and Health Statistics? That will likely tell you a lot more about Elizabeth.

On the 1920 census, it looks like Helen Peterson is Elizabeth's sister, living with them at the time. Have you tried researching her?
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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I do not think the SSDI you attached to Elizabeth is the correct record for her: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...09&usePUB=true

If she was born in 1898 as per the 1920 census, then a birth year of 1914 is very likely too far off to be her. That would make it impossible for her to have been married in 1916. Additionally, the woman in the SSDI record appears to be well researched as this woman: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/54741925

Elizabeth “Libby” Shufelt Pedersen
BIRTH 12 Nov 1914 Windham, Greene County, New York, USA
DEATH 15 Feb 1989 Chiefland, Levy County, Florida, USA
BURIAL Ebenezer Baptist Church Cemetery Chiefland, Levy County, Florida, USA

Remember, getting divorced doesn't necessarily mean a woman went back to her maiden name.
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Here is Ernest's obituary: https://www.newspapers.com/image/316...Ernest+Cuny%22

Unfortunately it's too big to attach it here - if you don't have a newspapers.com subscription, PM me with your email address, I can email it to you.
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:24 AM
 
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There is a newspaper article of how Elizabeth abandoned her children in 1925. It includes a picture of Elizabeth. Like I say, PM me - I can't attach them here.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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So I was looking for Helen and/or Elizabeth on the 1910 census before Elizabeth was married. Theoretically, as children, they should be living together with their parents so when they weren't easy to find together, I started looking at other potential situations. Elizabeth and Helen were both born in Connecticut and Elizabeth's divorce record says she was married in Connecticut, even though Ernest was from Michigan and they lived there, I started my search in Connecticut. The 1920 census also confirms their parents were both from Sweden.

I am wondering if this is Helen in 1910, in the New Haven Orphan Asylum, Connecticut: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=2564571 - Elizabeth isn't there, but it was not unusual for orphans to be split up. Helen does appear to have another sister there though, Alina. The parent's birth places both say Sweden, and being orphaned would explain why Helen and Elizabeth can't be found together with their parents on the 1910 census. It is also a good reason for why Helen was living with Elizabeth and Ernest in 1920.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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I think this might be Elizabeth in 1910: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=2596503

Her parent's birth places say "United States?" and "Unknown?" which doesn't match with what we know but it looks like the informant didn't know and was therefore guessing. Being a servant and living with her employers would make sense for a 12 yr old orphan. And she's really the only Elizabeth Peterson of the right age living in all of Connecticut in 1910. There's one born in 1902 and one born in 1893, but these are starting to get too far from the correct birth year to be her, plus they are living with parents, which wouldn't be right if she was indeed orphaned.

As for 1900 - this would have been before Helen was born, therefore their parents should be alive. So there's two Elizabeth Peterson of the right age living in Connecticut in 1900 - both have parents from Sweden:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=7505469
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=6967371

Personally, I think the one in New Haven is more likely to be her, since Helen is in the New Haven Orphan Asylum in 1910, but I would do more digging before assuming that (if there was no orphan home nearby, the children could easily be sent to another county). Coincidentally, the father in both cases is Charles. So you at least now have a likely name for her father.

Edit: The Danbury, Connecticut family can be found in 1910, the parents still alive, although Elizabeth isn't there: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/...=try&h=2320347 - so that lends support to the correct Elizabeth being the one in New Haven in 1900, making her parents Charles and Olive.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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thats pretty good
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