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Old 02-21-2019, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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on 23 and me I have 1.6%. I uploaded on Gedmatch, I have 6.6%.
That's not much and could just be noise (like a false positive). The cousins with Puerto Rican ancestry - is their entire ancestry all exclusively from Puerto Rico? Because if not, you could share an ancestry with them on their non-Puerto Rican side. Even if they do have exclusively Puerto Rican or Hispanic ancestry, it doesn't necessarily mean that you do, especially if they are more distant matches (again, 4th cousin is just an estimate, they could be more distant than that). Hispanics often have European ancestry, not necessarily just Spanish or Portuguese - and you may share an ancestor with them from back in Europe, which could mean your own ancestors never went to Puerto Rico or Latin America. Having Puerto Rico on the list of Ancestors birthplaces doesn't necessarily mean anything either - the 8th one on my list is Sweden and I have no ancestors from there.

Again, how much DNA do you share with these matches?

I am not saying you do not have any Hispanic ancestry, you very well could if you don't know anything about your ancestry. But the best way to find out is to research your family tree the traditional way - your DNA results aren't going to tell you anything conclusive.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Just wanted to note on the free MyHeritage tree, I don't think they remove anyone from the tree. I have over 3000 people on my tree and I have just gotten the message from them suggesting I upgrade all the time and no one has been removed.



I didn't know they had a limit, otherwise I would never have uploaded. The message is annoying to see but I just click it off when I'm on the site.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:23 AM
 
Location: California
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...e-5-notes.html

23andMe also sells genetic data to drug companies for their own research. It has partnerships with several drugmakers, including GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Biogen, Genentech and Alnylam.

I don't give my data to anyone as they only profit from selling it back to us.
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Old 02-21-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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That's not much and could just be noise (like a false positive). The cousins with Puerto Rican ancestry - is their entire ancestry all exclusively from Puerto Rico? Because if not, you could share an ancestry with them on their non-Puerto Rican side. Even if they do have exclusively Puerto Rican or Hispanic ancestry, it doesn't necessarily mean that you do, especially if they are more distant matches (again, 4th cousin is just an estimate, they could be more distant than that). Hispanics often have European ancestry, not necessarily just Spanish or Portuguese - and you may share an ancestor with them from back in Europe, which could mean your own ancestors never went to Puerto Rico or Latin America. Having Puerto Rico on the list of Ancestors birthplaces doesn't necessarily mean anything either - the 8th one on my list is Sweden and I have no ancestors from there.

Again, how much DNA do you share with these matches?

I am not saying you do not have any Hispanic ancestry, you very well could if you don't know anything about your ancestry. But the best way to find out is to research your family tree the traditional way - your DNA results aren't going to tell you anything conclusive.
We share between. 0.25 to 0.27 dna
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...e-5-notes.html

23andMe also sells genetic data to drug companies for their own research. It has partnerships with several drugmakers, including GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer, Biogen, Genentech and Alnylam.

I don't give my data to anyone as they only profit from selling it back to us.
You can opt out of sharing your data for genetic research.

https://www.23andme.com/about/tos/
https://www.23andme.com/gdpr/
https://www.23andme.com/about/consent/
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Old 02-21-2019, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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We share between. 0.25 to 0.27 dna
Percent? That's about 19-20 cM which can be as close as 3rd cousins but also as distant as 8th cousins or more: https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4/20
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:39 PM
 
Location: VT; previously MD & NJ
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on 23 and me I have 1.6%. I uploaded on Gedmatch, I have 6.6%.
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Wow, Thank you. that is great information. I'm going to take a test on Ancestry and see what results I get and build a tree. On 23 and me they said This person was 100% Spanish and Portuguese and likely born between 1750 and 1840.
The Timeline report on 23&Me is very iffy. It assumes there was one ancestor who contributed that ethnicity and based on the percent it works backwards to give you a time frame. Read the detail about how the Timeline works. Your Spanish and Portuguese may have come in small amounts from multiple people over time.
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Old Today, 10:01 AM
 
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I uploaded on Gedmatch and entered my kit for MDLP World 22 oracle results. I see Mesoamerican and South American Indian and also Puerto Rican.

Admix Results:

# Population Percent
1 Sub-Saharian 70.43
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 10.87
3 North-East-European 7.45
4 North-European-Mesolithic 3.47
5 Pygmy 1.97
6 West-Asian 1.76
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.99
8 South-African 0.97
9 Samoedic 0.75
10 South-America_Amerind 0.37
11 Arctic-Amerind 0.29
12 Indian 0.26
13 Melanesian 0.26
14 Mesoamerican

Single Population Source:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lemba (derived) 24.03
2 Bantu (derived) 25.9
3 Biaka_Pygmies (derived) 33.08
4 Mandenka (derived) 33.73
5 Sub-Saharian (ancestral) 33.82
6 Yoruba (derived) 33.82
7 Lumbee (derived) 52.38
8 Ethiopian (derived) 54.05
9 Jew-Ethiopia (derived) 57.58
10 Jew_Ethiopia (derived) 58.6
11 Moroccan (derived) 60.18
12 Mozabite (derived) 65.88
13 Yemen (derived) 68.04
14 Puerto-Rican (derived) 69.67
15 Australian (derived) 70.22
16 Egyptian (derived) 72.46
17 Miwok (derived) 76.61
18 Jordanian (derived) 76.86
19 Ste7 (derived) 77.16
20 Mexican (derived)


On my mixed mode population sharing For Secondary population. Puerto Rican pops up 3 times
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Old Today, 10:22 AM
 
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I uploaded on Gedmatch and entered my kit for MDLP World 22 oracle results. I see Mesoamerican and South American Indian and also Puerto Rican.

Admix Results:

# Population Percent
1 Sub-Saharian 70.43
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 10.87
3 North-East-European 7.45
4 North-European-Mesolithic 3.47
5 Pygmy 1.97
6 West-Asian 1.76
7 Indo-Tibetan 0.99
8 South-African 0.97
9 Samoedic 0.75
10 South-America_Amerind 0.37
11 Arctic-Amerind 0.29
12 Indian 0.26
13 Melanesian 0.26
14 Mesoamerican

Single Population Source:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lemba (derived) 24.03
2 Bantu (derived) 25.9
3 Biaka_Pygmies (derived) 33.08
4 Mandenka (derived) 33.73
5 Sub-Saharian (ancestral) 33.82
6 Yoruba (derived) 33.82
7 Lumbee (derived) 52.38
8 Ethiopian (derived) 54.05
9 Jew-Ethiopia (derived) 57.58
10 Jew_Ethiopia (derived) 58.6
11 Moroccan (derived) 60.18
12 Mozabite (derived) 65.88
13 Yemen (derived) 68.04
14 Puerto-Rican (derived) 69.67
15 Australian (derived) 70.22
16 Egyptian (derived) 72.46
17 Miwok (derived) 76.61
18 Jordanian (derived) 76.86
19 Ste7 (derived) 77.16
20 Mexican (derived)


On my mixed mode population sharing For Secondary population. Puerto Rican pops up 3 times
For starters, the distance on that is very distant. The higher the number, the less you match that population, and those are some of the highest numbers I've ever seen. What this is actually telling you is that you don't really match their samples for Puerto Rican.

Secondly, it's important to understand that Single Population Sharing was designed for people whose entire ancestry is from one location. If that's not the case for you, then the results of Oracle's Single Population Source is probably not going to give you reliable results. So even if the numbers were much lower, it doesn't necessarily mean anything conclusive.

Mixed Mode Population is meant for people with ancestry from only two different locations. So again, if you have ancestry from more than two locations, the results aren't necessarily reliable for you.

In your admixture results, you don't actually have any results in Mesoamerican (there is no percentage), and your results for South American are under 1%, meaning they may very well just be noise.

I'm sorry but it sounds to me like you're looking for something that's not there.
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Old Today, 10:45 AM
 
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For starters, the distance on that is very distant. The higher the number, the less you match that population, and those are some of the highest numbers I've ever seen. What this is actually telling you is that you don't really match their samples for Puerto Rican.

Secondly, it's important to understand that Single Population Sharing was designed for people whose entire ancestry is from one location. If that's not the case for you, then the results of Oracle's Single Population Source is probably not going to give you reliable results. So even if the numbers were much lower, it doesn't necessarily mean anything conclusive.

Mixed Mode Population is meant for people with ancestry from only two different locations. So again, if you have ancestry from more than two locations, the results aren't necessarily reliable for you.

In your admixture results, you don't actually have any results in Mesoamerican (there is no percentage), and your results for South American are under 1%, meaning they may very well just be noise.

I'm sorry but it sounds to me like you're looking for something that's not there.
oh sorry, mesoamerican is 0.17
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