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Old 04-07-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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Are you sure about this part? Lots and lots and lots of good, concrete and brick and stone buildings with great sound insulation were built in the 50's and 60's.
You have a point there, maybe 1970s is more appropriate. I lived in one complex built in the 70s and it was awful.
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:05 PM
 
Location: ohio
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Building with concrete floors are better. Lived in 2, well obviously I cant actually say they were concrete but I was on the first floor in both and other than occasional mild scrape or bump I heard absolutely nothing from above.

Contrast to the time I rented an apartment in a converted house, it was on the first floor but being one of my first rentals I didnt even consider the ramifications. All was fine and silent for 2 days. Then the upstairs folks got home at 11PM, the din began and went to 5AM, it often sounded like wrestling and basketball were going on simultaneously. Next morning I was tempted to leave my stereo on full blast while I was at work, but refrained to just play one song at about 8/10 volume. Next night and each night after the same situation occured. Thankfully I had not signed a lease, was young, had little furniture and could move in my car easily. I found another place and moved out within the week.
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:09 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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I have lived in 7 apartment buildings and did not experience what I have been through, until having been in the current apartment for years, having only a few out of twelve upstairs neighbors be annoying, just in recent years.

I don't honestly know what all of the buildings have been constructed of, but older. Honestly, my experience tells me that it is more about the tenant from their behavior, since they have not all been intolerable. My building is quiet and also the vicinity.

To the guy who spoke of those hanging outside at all hours, I have never lived in an environment such as that, gratefully. I am one quietly staying up after hours, having gotten into the habit due to upstairs neighbors destroying my peacefulness, needing to relax after they quiet down.
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Old 04-14-2015, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Central NY
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Apartments are like a box of chocolates.... you never know what you will get. I've lived in several apartments in my years after divorce. Some have been great experiences, some not so much. I have found landlords really do not want to get involved in what they consider petty issues between tenants. They want "us" to take care of the problem. Sometimes you get a reasonable person who did not know they were a disturbance; then you get some who just don't care about how loud they are or what time they are loud.
I am currently living in a "senior" complex where rent is based on income. All of us are older, some in less than good health. There is one woman on first floor that has a small dog that never ever goes outdoors. Of course, the dog has to do its business a few times each day, and it is within the apartment. I am not close enough to the apartment but have heard how brutal the odor is at times. The resident has had to agree to have a commercial rug cleaner come in on a regular basis to clean the carpet. But you have to wonder when will the bugs start showing up, etc.?
The owner of this complex could care less. Will not address the problem.
And some of the ladies have some extra weight on them and don't know the meaning of walking quietly. Those who live under them are always complaining about the heavy foot.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:37 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Apartments are like a box of chocolates.... you never know what you will get. I've lived in several apartments in my years after divorce. Some have been great experiences, some not so much. I have found landlords really do not want to get involved in what they consider petty issues between tenants. They want "us" to take care of the problem. Sometimes you get a reasonable person who did not know they were a disturbance; then you get some who just don't care about how loud they are or what time they are loud.
I am currently living in a "senior" complex where rent is based on income. All of us are older, some in less than good health. There is one woman on first floor that has a small dog that never ever goes outdoors. Of course, the dog has to do its business a few times each day, and it is within the apartment. I am not close enough to the apartment but have heard how brutal the odor is at times. The resident has had to agree to have a commercial rug cleaner come in on a regular basis to clean the carpet. But you have to wonder when will the bugs start showing up, etc.?
The owner of this complex could care less. Will not address the problem.
And some of the ladies have some extra weight on them and don't know the meaning of walking quietly. Those who live under them are always complaining about the heavy foot.
OMG. Well, those are valid complaints. The heavy, thudding walking is pretty difficult. And I will wonder what the heck they are doing otherwise - loud bangs, thuds, when others that have lived upstairs did not do that. The manager says of course, she "cannot do anything about walking", but I'll betcha if others had to sit in here, listening to BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, BAM, for hours, it would have an affect on them, too. There really should be something done about it, because I see what a common complaint it is. Those who do this, should not live upstairs -- but how the heck would they test a person's walk and say "no, sorry, no can do". If only.

Just the other evening, I experienced listening to LOUD base noise from next door. I waited a bit, but as I was watching TV, it was becoming pretty annoying - dum, dum, dum, dum, dum - you get the picture - hearing it from before 8:00 pm to 9:20 pm. So, I prepared myself to go speak to them. (She is a 20-something girl, has not lived here too long, and have heard this before, speaking to her once). So, she opens the door, totally expressionless, as I said Hi and told her how I have been listening to this for an hour and a half. She said, "Nobody else has complained" and I said, "Well, I am right on the other side of you" (and who knows if anyone that would be affected were home). So, she did not even say she would turn it down...saying, "it's only 9:30"... to which I casually said, "well, then I guess I'll just have to call the cops", and she said something to the effect of "go ahead". She did turn it off at 10:00, and no, I did not call the police. But, if I need to sometime, I will. I should speak to the manager, but this is not the first time I have made a complaint.

Now, I don't like to go through this stuff. This is the first neighbor in that apartment who has done this. She obviously has an attitude. Others should not have to listen to that, no matter what time of day. Aarrgh.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:53 AM
 
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Look people,it's like this...I'm 60 years old and have lived in 13 apartment complexes since 1980.I learned something from this..ALL apartment comlexes are good for one thing.Aggrivation and Tension(ok, two things).the bottom line is this..The majority of people moving in to apartments,tend to live they're lives in the same fashion as if they were living in a house..period!! this is where all the noise comes from..They truly feel as though they have the right to treat apartment living as if they were living in their own home,that they'd purchased with their own money..They feel they have every right to play their music as loud as they want,come and go on to the property blasting their crap music from their vehicle at any time of day or night.They also feel that hanging outside or roaming complex property at 2 and 3am is completely acceptable ,because after all they pay rent and have the same rights that one would have if they were living in their own house(so they believe)..landlords have the notion it's not their job to tell a tenant ,in the day time,how loud they can or can't play their music. One thing about society that really peez me off is that the majority of younger people,between preteen and 40 don't seem to believe or respect the seperation line dividing normal sleep hours and normal daytime hours..in layman's terms,ie,hanging out and socialising has carried over into all hours of the night..my notion of late night ,11pm and later,is that it's sleep time for most and i should treat it as such whether i'm asleep or not..that means my behavior is that of a person who is trying NOT to wake my neighbors up.That means also ,that i don't expect to see people hanging around on the property,roaming around on property and vehicles back and forth all night,as though it's daytime..but unfortunately society and especially people in that age range i mentioned have completely deleted that once existing line that seperates what once were accepted as most people are "asleep hours" andmost people are "awake hours" ...Today it seems to be normal to hang out at 1,2 and 3am and later and that there is no respected "quiet time" anymore..When i was discussing this very thing with a group of 6 people in a diner recently,all of them between 20 and 26 years old,they all agreed that what one calls bed time hours or 'quiet time' doesn't exist anymore because it's become so acceptable to be out and about at 2 and 3am that hanging out can now be at anytime,making what we used to accept as quiet time ,those hours that we accpted that most people were sleeping,as non existant..they all agreed on one thing immediately..quiet time is an individual thing..they made it clear that 24/7 businesses don't slow down..they stay busy 24/7..they went on to say that there is no time during night or day that they feel they have to be especially quieter..and they also said that they expect others living around them to have that same notion..they said that everybody now days just goes to bed when they're sleepy..period!When i brought up the fact that most people are asleep at midnight and 1 and 2am,they laughed and said they don't believe that's true and that the notion itself is old school.. that it's probably the minority but certainly not the majority these days..they seemed to be under the impression that most people are awake most of the night and it's the minority that go to bed early..they're version of what's early seems to be anywhere before midnight and then they made it clear they really believe that commonly, most people under 40 are up til at least 1am ..i don't know enough people in the age range of say 20 to 40 to actually get a good fix on whether or not these people were accurate or not..i hang out with others my age and i only have one friend that's awake all night and that's simply because he gets off work at midnight then comes home and can't sleep for hours..but that's normal..most people that i know personally when they come home from work at 6pm probably aren't in bed til 10pm or 11pm..4 or 5 hours after get come home ..but definitely not midnight or 1am every night..on weekends certainly,but not week nights.If society is really changing to the huge degree that this group of people claims,then it seems to me that things will become much worse in this country very soon.I recently was told that the Hispanic culture is also pretty much known to be a late or all night culture and with so many of them coming here illegally and granted amnesty,i'm concerned about the change that will overtake our society within a short time..but.. I guess i'll cross that bridge when i come to it.
Lots of good points in that..single...paragraph. It reads like a stream of consciousness.

Reading between the lines: most people are self-centered and overrated. You find that out the hard way in apartments. I didn't mind it much in dorms and was a perpetrator at times, but anyone much over 25 should have learned respect for neighbors.
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Old 09-02-2015, 04:25 AM
 
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For a little over a year, I lived in an old Victorian house that was converted into an upper and lower unit. I had the lower. The girl in the upper had a treadmill. When she used it- which wasn't often- I could not only hear the whining sound of the motor and the "thump thump thump" of her running, I could actually see my ceiling moving up and down. I don't know what she did for a living but she was running in and out of her apartment all night long and would pound her feet on the stairs and slam doors constantly. The place had hardwood floors and she didn't have any area rugs so I could constantly hear the clicking of her heals on the floor. She also smoked quite heavily and the cigarette odor would come through the heating vents plus there was a constant pile of cigarette butts on the ground at the bottom of the stairs going up to her unit. That year did it for me- I vowed never to rent a lower unit in an apartment building again.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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I lived in apartments for years & have known others who lived in apartments for years. I haven't read all of these posts, but in all honesty you have absolutely no way of knowing what living in a certain apt. will be like until you actually move in.

There are a lot of factors which you have to keep in mind here:

-The habits of your neighbors. Are they at home when you're at home? If so, do they play loud music, throw parties, have the TV up loud, walk around a lot, etc?! If you're also at home & they do any of these things, you will almost certainly hear them.

- Your hearing. If you have extremely good hearing (like I do), you can hear everything. If you don't, you may not.

-Whether or not someone is above you. If you're on a lower floor, you will hear people walking around above you. If you're on an upper floor, you won't - however, people may hear you walking around & may complain as a result.

-Food/cigarette smells. The lady below me smoked, and I would always smell her cigarettes & food cooking smells coming from the air duct in the kitchen.

Also, complaining about noise issues to apartment management is pretty much useless. It doesn't help, and in my experience is pretty much a waste of time.
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:35 AM
 
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It's a crap-shoot because you may end up with what you believe to be a wonderful unit with wonderful considerate neighbors. . . then in a heartbeat the nice folks move out and the neighbor-from-hell moves in.

When looking at various complexes, it's important to scope out the vehicles because if all you see is a parking lot full of junkers, that gives you a good indication of the type of tenants who live there.

Usually the more you pay, the better chance for decent soundproofing and insulation, and those who pay higher rent are not your typical scums who are ready to ransack your apartment as soon as you leave.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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It's a crap-shoot because you may end up with what you believe to be a wonderful unit with wonderful considerate neighbors. . . then in a heartbeat the nice folks move out and the neighbor-from-hell moves in.

When looking at various complexes, it's important to scope out the vehicles because if all you see is a parking lot full of junkers, that gives you a good indication of the type of tenants who live there.

Usually the more you pay, the better chance for decent soundproofing and insulation, and those who pay higher rent are not your typical scums who are ready to ransack your apartment as soon as you leave.
Fairly true. I learned in the past that if one is sensitive to noise, make sure to live on the top floor, if in a complex or a multi-family home. This can be an absolute deal-breaker.
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