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Old 07-09-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: MINNESOTA
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Is Pittsburgh 'midwest'?

Because if you are going to consider Cleveland you might as well include Pittsburgh. With all of the LeBron hype I heard a guy on ESPN say "LeBron, right where the Midwest begins"
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Old 07-09-2010, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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A very strict definition of "Midwest" would exclude anything below I-70 in OH, IN, IL, MO, and KS (the South), anything west of the Missouri river in the Dakotas and extreme western Nebraska (the West), anything east of Columbus in OH (the Northeast) and extreme northern Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan (the Far North/Subarctic). The only truly, 100% quintessential Midwestern state would be Iowa. However, the census defines Midwest as MN, WI, MI, OH, IN, IL, IA, KS, MO, NE, ND, and SD. Officially, those states are Midwestern, and everywhere in those states has some affinity with the Midwest, even the transitional areas.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:15 AM
 
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If you divided the Midwest in to 3 sections ( south-to-north), they might be portrayed as follows:

Southern Midwest-southern portions of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois, along with most of Missouri; think Cincinnati, St. Louis, etc..

Central Midwest-most of Ohio, Indiana, northern 2/3 of Illinois, most of Iowa, Nebraska, southern Michigan and Wisconsin; think Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison, Des Moines, Omaha. etc..

Northern (Upper Midwest)--northern 2/3 of Michigan, Wisconsin; virtually all of Minnesota; all of North and South Dakota; think Minneapolis, Green Bay, fargo, Bismarck, etc...

If you're going strictly on north-south latitudinal lines, then it's possible to place Minneapolis in the Central Midwest, since 2/3 of Minnesota ( and all of North Dakota) are north of the Twin Cities, but most people don't think in this context...Minneapolis is too cold to think of it in terms of being merely "central"...
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:35 AM
 
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Minneapolis is definitely the hub of the Upper Midwest.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Minneapolis is well north of Chicago, Detroit and Milwaukee, and even Green Bay and Traverse City. It's at the same latitude as Wausau, WI and Alpena, MI.
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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Here's a rough sketch of what I'm thinking:

Red = Upper Midwest
Orange = Rust Belt/Central Midwest
Yellow = Lower Midwest
Purple = Great Plains/Beginning of the West



Souix City, Dubuque, Madison, Grand Rapids, and Saginaw are kind of on the boundry between the central and upper midwest although I would classify all these cities as being more Central Midwest. Springfield, Indianapolis, and Columbus are around where the central and lower midwest meet. Bismark and Minot is kind of where the Midwest starts to end and the West begins.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Here's a rough sketch of what I'm thinking:

Red = Upper Midwest
Orange = Rust Belt/Central Midwest
Yellow = Lower Midwest
Purple = Great Plains/Beginning of the West



Souix City, Dubuque, Madison, Grand Rapids, and Saginaw are kind of on the boundry between the central and upper midwest although I would classify all these cities as being more Central Midwest. Springfield, Indianapolis, and Columbus are around where the central and lower midwest meet. Bismark and Minot is kind of where the Midwest starts to end and the West begins.
But I thought Duluth and Green Bay, for example, were both quintessential Rust Belt Cities...? I thought the Upper Midwest and the Central Midwest (as you define them) are both typically just considered "Upper Midwest"...?
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Midwest Boundaries - Google Maps

Here's a map that I feel better illustrates the different cultural regions of the Midwest.
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Old 07-09-2010, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Yes they do - every week-end. I have relatives in Minocqua, and Chicago pretty much owns the place during the summer. Door County and Lake Geneva are also VERY popular summer destinations.
I never said they don't go way up North and of course Door County and definitely Lake Geneva.

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Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about. While the Dells are a major tourist attraction, so are the Northwoods. Chicagoans own vacation homes all over Northern WI.



Is that a serious question? A state's climate, geography, and topography (how it looks) plays no role in it's ability to attract tourists? I guess that's why Nebraska and Kansas are so popular with tourists.

WI is the #1 tourist destination in the entire Midwest.
Being from Chicago, I know where people go and the two biggest draws are Door County and The Dells. Again, I never said people don't go way up North, but

Nice claim without a source.

You are going off on tangents that have nothing to do with what I said. I never said that geography doesn't play a role in where people go and I never brought up vacationing, yet you decided to bring it up. What I said is that you were wrong when saying Chicago is more like Wisconsin and that the rest of Illinois isn't green and doesn't have trees. Do you get that?

Now before you go post more nonsense, why don't you go back and read my posts.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:11 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Is Pittsburgh 'midwest'?

Because if you are going to consider Cleveland you might as well include Pittsburgh. With all of the LeBron hype I heard a guy on ESPN say "LeBron, right where the Midwest begins"
Oh, please, not this again! This topic has been debated ad nausem, both here and on the Pittsburgh forum. Pittsburgh is in Pennsylvania. Do you consider PA a midwestern state? If not, then Pittsbugh isn't a midwestern city.
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