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Old 07-09-2010, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Here's the new version of my map.

Midwest boundaries - Google Maps
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:23 PM
 
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Here's the new version of my map.

Midwest boundaries - Google Maps
That's good except for places like Rapid City as well as Western Nebraska and Western Kansas should probably just be left out of the Midwest completely just like you left out Southern Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana.

EDIT: Wait, what?? There's no way Madison or anywhere in Southern Wisconsin is part of the Lower Midwest. Plus Cincinnati is in the Lower Midwest. Yes it has a Southern influence but that's what the Lower Midwest is: the Midwest with a Southern tinge.

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Old 07-09-2010, 04:28 PM
 
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Really? Interesting. I always thought of the western Dakotas as more "West" Granted, I've never been out there though.
You would be correct. I think the border between the West and Midwest is the Missouri River in the Dakotas.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:41 PM
 
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Revised again

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Old 07-09-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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Fixed it for you. Now it's perfect.

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Old 07-09-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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Do you really think Bismarck and Rapid City are more like Salt Lake City or LA than Grand Forks or Sioux Falls? Those areas are still Midwest.
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Fixed it for you. Now it's perfect.
The Great Plains run North and South not East and West.
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Old 07-09-2010, 07:09 PM
 
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I've never been to Bismark so I can't comment. However I put it right on the border along with Minot which is based off of stuff I've heard on here and from people I know who've been there. Rapid City however, is very much a western town. Obviously it ain't a lot like SLC or LA but hey, Duluth is nothing like Cincinnati and Iowa City is nothin like Cleveland but they're all still considered Midwestern. Rapid City is much more similar to Wyoming, Coloroado and Montana than it is to anywhere Minnesota or Wisconsin. It matches cities such as Cheyenne, Fort Collins, Billings and Pueblo moreso than Fargo or Sioux Falls let alone St Cloud or Madison.

Does this place look Midwestern?




This is Wall, south dakota EAST of Rapid City:
http://www.aesd.k12.ca.us/Picture%20File/South%20Dakota/Wall/images/501%20Wall%20Drug%20Store,%20South%20Dakota_jpg.jp g (broken link)
Keyston, SD

Point out the Midwestern to me

http://drivingtoalaska.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/CapturePhoto-KeystoneStreet-5.173171615_std.JPG (broken link)
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Old 07-09-2010, 08:47 PM
 
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Do you really think Bismarck and Rapid City are more like Salt Lake City or LA than Grand Forks or Sioux Falls? Those areas are still Midwest.
Only if you think there is one Western culture it is. Salt Lake City is the focal point of a seperate Mormon culture which is along I-15 in Utah and Idaho. And LA is part of a Southern California culture.

The western Dakotas are part of one that is shared with the areas East of the front range of the Rockies. If this region is a subset of Midwest culture than significant parts of Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado are Midwest then.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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Here's a map that I feel better illustrates the different cultural regions of the Midwest.
I've read this whole thread and in my opinion, you are the only one who has got the regions right. Your Great Plains region is correct: it's all of North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, 90% of Kansas, northwest corner of Missouri, western Iowa, and western Minnesota (technically it includes portions of Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana as well but those areas are not in the Midwest). Your upper Midwest region is also correct in that it includes Iowa north and east of Des Moines. That whole northeast quadrant of Iowa is upper Midwest, but many people here especially the Minneapolis people seem to think it is either Great Plains or rust belt.

The only thing I would take issue with is the distinction between rust belt and upper Midwest. I still think this is an unnecessary distinction in places like eastern Wisconsin and northern Illinois. Those areas are upper Midwest. It seems to be only Minneapolis people who think the Milwaukee/Chicago area is not upper Midwest.
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