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Old 07-14-2010, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Nope. My parents are from the Philippines. Sucks coming from a really Catholic country where even the name of the nationality is named after a Spanish king who HATED Muslims. It's ok though, that's why I'm an American



Many of those who came from Iran came as a result of the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Remember: the Shah's government really pushed for secularization at all cores, which helped bring about his downfall (that was deeply unpopular in the countryside).

Many of those who came from Iran were religious minorities (especially Jews and Armenians) because they feared the treatment they would face under an Islamic regime. The religious minority groups also happened to be some of the most well off Iranians.

I've met some Iranian Muslims here in the US, but they're extremely secular and vehemently pro-Shahi. However, as time passes on and the Islamic Revolution becomes more and more distant, its becoming less of an issue. If you're more interested in the migration of Iranians out of Iran, I suggest reading some works by Nikkie Keddie to get a glimpse into the diaspora.

Most of the Muslims I know personally are Pakistani, Bangladeshi, or Arab.



I haven't come across hostility to my face since I don't "look Muslim", and I haven't heard anti-Islamic discourse to my face yet. However, I did have a friend whose dad asked me why I didn't convert to Catholicism yet, since Muslims are so "mysterious and distrustful". I said "well, why don't you come convert me then, eh?"

As 9/11 becomes more and more of a memory, its becoming less and less of an issue.

Lets be honest with ourselves..what does it mean to be a Moderate Muslim? It has NO meaning at all. Its a question of integration, not one of faith. The history of Muslims in Europe is extremely complex (mostly dealing with the attitudes the Europeans had toward their colonials AND their guest workers), and should be looked at wider lenses than just the religious one.
Very interesting post, Lifeshadower I have a friend who's family moved to LA from Tehran in the 1970's; now I know why. I've never asked him if he is Muslim. We never see burkas in LA but in parts of West LA\ Beverly Hills and the San Fernando valley there are many Persian restaurants and big festivals.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:55 AM
 
Location: 30-40N 90-100W
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Lets be honest with ourselves..what does it mean to be a Moderate Muslim? It has NO meaning at all. Its a question of integration, not one of faith. The history of Muslims in Europe is extremely complex (mostly dealing with the attitudes the Europeans had toward their colonials AND their guest workers), and should be looked at wider lenses than just the religious one.
Well yeah, I've taken classes on Islamic history and all I just don't know how deeply we would want to get into all that on the "General US" section.

I think when I say "Moderate Muslim" I don't mean lax or irreligious. I don't necessarily even mean an issue of integration. I could see some Muslims living off in a commune away from the rest of us as "Moderate" in some cases. I guess in simplified terms I'm thinking of people who interpret Islam in a way that's compatible with modern notions of human rights and not seeking the imposition of Islamic law.
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Old 06-18-2011, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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Patterson, NJ
NYC
Dearborn, MI
Charlotte has a sizable muslim population.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC NoVA
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cities on the us border with canada like detroit and buffalo will have high muslim populations. lackawanna for buffalo and dearborn for detroit. nyc of course too, but the dc area also has a major muslim population in reston and herndon. they're considered a majority there.
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Old 06-18-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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1 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA PMSA - 167,548
2 New York, NY PMSA - 152,337
3 Detroit, MI PMSA - 124,585
4 Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV PMSA - 113,987
5 Chicago, IL PMSA - 88,742
6 Orange County, CA PMSA - 59,262
7 Houston, TX PMSA - 47,010
8 Oakland, CA PMSA - 42,691
9 San Diego, CA MSA - 39,172
10 Boston, MA-NH PMSA - 37,177
11 San Jose, CA PMSA - 34,643
12 Dallas, TX PMSA - 34,423
13 Nassau-Suffolk, NY PMSA - 33,519
14 Atlanta, GA MSA - 32,045
15 Bergen-Passaic, NJ PMSA - 31,032
16 San Francisco, CA PMSA - 29,224
17 Riverside-San Bernardino, CA PMSA - 27,017
18 Philadelphia, PA-NJ PMSA - 26,285
19 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA PMSA - 25,002
20 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI MSA - 20,701
Rank by percentage Muslim of MSAs containing the PMSAs listed here:
1) Detroit 2.80
2) DC 2.38
3) San Jose 2.00
4) Los Angeles 1.83
5) San Francisco-Oakland 1.74
6) San Diego 1.39
7) New York 1.18
8) Houston 1.00
9) Chicago 0.97
10) Boston 0.85
11) Inland Empire 0.83
12) Seattle 0.82
13) Atlanta 0.75
14) Twin Cities 0.70
15) Dallas-Fort Worth 0.67
16) Philadelphia 0.46

*Calculation Methodology: I used combined NYC, Nassau-Suffolk into the NYC MSA; Los Angeles and Orange County into the Los Angeles MSA; San Francisco and Oakland into the San Francisco MSA; I divided all MSA Muslim populations by their respective 2000 MSA populations to obtain the percentage of Muslims in each MSA, as of 2000.

**This adds additional support to my hypothesis that the DC metro area has the most diverse stock of immigrants, as there is substantial representation from all parts of Asia, Central/South America, all over Africa, all over the Western Asia (Middle East) and chunks of the Carribean...wish I could say "QED", but I can't yet at this point, lol
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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Patterson, NJ
NYC
Dearborn, MI
Charlotte has a sizable muslim population.
Paterson, NJ, has a significant number of Muslim residents, many of them Palestinian. But it does not have 2 ts.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Detroit's eastside, downtown Detroit in near future!
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Metro Detroit of course

Philadelphia! Native born African American Muslims. A looooot
Actually Detroit has plenty of Muslim African Americans.....the NOI did start here

Secondly, the Detroit area (including Dearborn) does have a lot of Muslims. Not all of them are Christian, which by the way are Chaldeans. Dearborn has plenty Lebanese, Muslim Iraqi, Irani etc

Detroit proper also has its share of African American muslims, Arab/Chaldean, Indian etc
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Virginia Highland, GA
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Patterson, NJ
NYC
Dearborn, MI
Charlotte has a sizable muslim population.
Charlotte does NOT have a sizable Muslim population, not even in the top 20.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Rank by percentage Muslim of MSAs containing the PMSAs listed here:
1) Detroit 2.80
2) DC 2.38
3) San Jose 2.00
4) Los Angeles 1.83
5) San Francisco-Oakland 1.74
6) San Diego 1.39
7) New York 1.18
8) Houston 1.00
9) Chicago 0.97
10) Boston 0.85
11) Inland Empire 0.83
12) Seattle 0.82
13) Atlanta 0.75
14) Twin Cities 0.70
15) Dallas-Fort Worth 0.67
16) Philadelphia 0.46

*Calculation Methodology: I used combined NYC, Nassau-Suffolk into the NYC MSA; Los Angeles and Orange County into the Los Angeles MSA; San Francisco and Oakland into the San Francisco MSA; I divided all MSA Muslim populations by their respective 2000 MSA populations to obtain the percentage of Muslims in each MSA, as of 2000.

**This adds additional support to my hypothesis that the DC metro area has the most diverse stock of immigrants, as there is substantial representation from all parts of Asia, Central/South America, all over Africa, all over the Western Asia (Middle East) and chunks of the Carribean...wish I could say "QED", but I can't yet at this point, lol
What is the number for Dallas pmsa. You used the DFW msa.
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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Location: Chicago/DC/Texas
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Rank by percentage Muslim of MSAs containing the PMSAs listed here:
1) Detroit 2.80
2) DC 2.38
3) San Jose 2.00
4) Los Angeles 1.83
5) San Francisco-Oakland 1.74
6) San Diego 1.39
7) New York 1.18
8) Houston 1.00
9) Chicago 0.97
10) Boston 0.85
11) Inland Empire 0.83
12) Seattle 0.82
13) Atlanta 0.75
14) Twin Cities 0.70
15) Dallas-Fort Worth 0.67
16) Philadelphia 0.46

*Calculation Methodology: I used combined NYC, Nassau-Suffolk into the NYC MSA; Los Angeles and Orange County into the Los Angeles MSA; San Francisco and Oakland into the San Francisco MSA; I divided all MSA Muslim populations by their respective 2000 MSA populations to obtain the percentage of Muslims in each MSA, as of 2000.

**This adds additional support to my hypothesis that the DC metro area has the most diverse stock of immigrants, as there is substantial representation from all parts of Asia, Central/South America, all over Africa, all over the Western Asia (Middle East) and chunks of the Carribean...wish I could say "QED", but I can't yet at this point, lol


What is the number for Dallas pmsa. You used the DFW msa.
If you check my previous post (four posts above), the quoted post contains all the PMSA numbers. I'm not sure of the PMSA percentages, as I've not been able to find the PMSA populations.
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