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Old 07-13-2010, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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So the 2nd largest amount of slaves were around present day Sugar Land and MO City in 1860..?
Well, according to the map; yeah.
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:24 PM
 
Location: America
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If you read farther down; East Texas and the Houston/Galveston area only accounted for 40 percent of the slave population in Texas. 50% were scattered around South, Central, and north Texas. Central Texas was an ideal place for slaves due to it's fertile land and that's why slavery actually started moving west.

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and how can you not see with your own source that it was concentrated in east texas? i didn't say that slavery didn't exist throughout the state, but for you to claim that it was as big a deal in central texas as it was in east texas is false

and you misread the wiki page. it says that 40% of slaves worked the gulf coast and east texas river valleys (not east texas as a whole), that other 50% was spread across the state including the rest of east texas
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:25 PM
 
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Come on now folx...

Galveston was the largest slave port west of the Mississippi for goodness sake

Not saying north and Central texas didnt have slavery because they clearly did, but the entry point for slaves was right along the coast by Houston...i dont know if it gets anymore deep south than that, using that criteria
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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and how can you not see with your own source that it was concentrated in east texas? i didn't say that slavery didn't exist throughout the state, but for you to claim that it was as big a deal in central texas as it was in east texas is false

and you misread the wiki page. it says that 40% of slaves worked the gulf coast and east texas river valleys (not east texas as a whole), that other 50% was spread across the state including the rest of east texas
The map suggest otherwise; the map easily depicts parts of Central Texas having a large percentage of slaves.

Btw, what do you consider East Texas??? East of 45 or 35???
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: America
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Give me an example of why it's not
historically, east texas played a major roll in the confederacy (there are countless articles of stories and quotes, it's too late to look for them all). marshall was a capital city, and galveston was the largest exporter of cotton in the country

culturally, characteristics of the south are much more heavily concentrated in east texas. southern dialect, mannerisms, restaurants, etc. don't even try to claim that all of central texas is the same. east texas is just as deep southern as places like mississippi and alabama. central texas is NOT
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:31 PM
 
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historically, east texas played a major roll in the confederacy (there are countless articles of stories and quotes, it's too late to look for them all). marshall was a capital city, and galveston was the largest exporter of cotton in the country
Dont forget that Tyler had the largest confederate POW camp for union soldiers, west of the mississippi...and that POW camp, built by slaves, was originally a training station for Confederate soldiers from North Louisiana and Texas
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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historically, east texas played a major roll in the confederacy (there are countless articles of stories and quotes, it's too late to look for them all). marshall was a capital city, and galveston was the largest exporter of cotton in the country

culturally, characteristics of the south are much more heavily concentrated in east texas. southern dialect, mannerisms, restaurants, etc. don't even try to claim that all of central texas is the same. east texas is just as deep southern as places like mississippi and alabama. central texas is NOT
Waco was one of the top producers of cotton though; and lots of its cotton was shipped to Galveston and New Orleans to be shipped out to Europe, South America, and India.

It was home of the Cotton Palace Fair which drew in visitors from all over the state.

Also was home to two black universities.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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historically, east texas played a major roll in the confederacy (there are countless articles of stories and quotes, it's too late to look for them all). marshall was a capital city, and galveston was the largest exporter of cotton in the country

culturally, characteristics of the south are much more heavily concentrated in east texas. southern dialect, mannerisms, restaurants, etc. don't even try to claim that all of central texas is the same. east texas is just as deep southern as places like mississippi and alabama. central texas is NOT
Also Marshall was where the Confederate State Government of Missouri was for most of the war. (there were two seperate state governments in Missouri each claiming legitimacy)
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Augusta, GA ''The fastest rising city in the southeast''
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but we have to remember that the piedmont south is more than just raleigh or charlotte. it's also cities like augusta, ga and aiken, sc. and when you look at what all entails the "deep south", these two cities fit the bill perfectly.
Exactly what does entail the ''deep south''? Have you actually visited Augusta before? Aiken is a medium size town and a suburb of Augusta. Augusta had a Tea Party and Gay Parade & Festival downtown. Three times as many people attended the gay festival compared to the Tea Party.....

Is this what entails the ''deep south''... Being one of the best places for gays in the summer of 2010...
http://thegavoice.com/index.php/aae/...be-this-summer

The Arts in the Heart festival every year downtown. The festival brings people together from all diffrent cultures. The festival isn't the largest festival in Augusta anymore. The Westobou festival created in 2008 now holds the crown. Arts in the Heart sure does resemble ''deep south''

YouTube - Arts In The Heart of Augusta Festival
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Old 07-14-2010, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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It seems very Southern to me . . . of course, I'm from Minnesota.
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