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Old 07-15-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Terramaria
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No way is Fredericksburg, VA deep south! I'd extend that "piedmont south" right upward to where that "Atlantic South" meets, with the line between "Atlantic and Piedmont" just above Richmond (where I'd move Atlantic South down to join). Also, include inner Southeast VA and NC east of 95 and Norteast of 40 as "Outer Banks", as it is coastal plain and is much more connected to outer banks (commonly called "inner banks" in this region), but is more "Tobacco south" than "Cotton South" and isn't really deep south.

Plus the "Atlantic South" should extended down to include the Hampton Roads (Norfolk) area; it has the same Chesapeake Bay culture that Baltimore does (in fact there are some Busch Gardens Williamsburg commercials even stating "Baltimore, this is your place to play!"); just with less diversity and less wealth. In no way is VA deep south at all as is most of NC. Also, I see how the "Outer Banks" stops in Northern Ocean City, MD, about 3 miles from the Delaware border! That just doesn't make sense!

Plus add in a "central and southern peninsular florida" region, with a description of "Dominated by transplants from the Northeast and Midwest", little in the way of southern culture, few southern accents, moderate to liberal politics. High hispanic populations and retirees.

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Old 07-15-2010, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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The relgion map is a good map to see how close the border of the South is to St. Louis. It tends to follow the line where either Catholics or Baptists are the largest group. The Catholic predominant counties are Midwestern, although there are Southern elements present unlike places further North. It is more in common to places along I-70 which are all very similar to each other in a sense. (or at least different from the Great Lakes)
Jefferson County, Sainte Genevieve County and Perry County really should not be on the map as Southern.
Having grown up in Ste Gen county, and knowing how overwhelmingly Catholic that county is, and Perry, for that matter, its really Midwestern.
The people that live there do not identify themselves in any way with the South.
Good post, Imperialmog.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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If I do a section for the rest of Florida, I'm including it in the Midwest or Northeast, or just giving it its own category. Those parts of Florida are NOT part of the South.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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If I do a section for the rest of Florida, I'm including it in the Midwest or Northeast, or just giving it its own category. Those parts of Florida are NOT part of the South.
You'd be surprised.
I currently live in an interior area of Central Florida, once one gets away from the coasts, and suburbia and retirementville, it can be VERY Southern.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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People are very inclusive with what they consider "The South". I think you did a good job, but being from Alabama I can tell you most real Southerners don't consider some of those areas "The South." Most of us consider the southeast region below Tennessee but including VA and WV. I think people need to realize that a place having southern ideals and speaking with a southern accent can be found anywhere in this country. These ideals are things learned and taught they are not genetic and can be found anywhere even the accent. The accent a lot of the time comes from living in a rural area in my opinion.

I personally do not consider Texas part of the South, and some of those areas on the map are a little bit too North. But what is with everyone wanting to say they're from the South? Does it give some sense of inclusion or something? I hate when I hear people say they from the South and I ask them where and they say Colorado.

But this is just my opinion, and I'm being more exclusive and considering what most of you have said is the Deep South.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I don't think there are people with Southern accents and Southern ideals in Minnesota, unless they just moved up here from a Southern state. Rural Minnesotans sound nothing like Southerners. At all.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Like my Midwest thread, I did a map of the different cultural regions of the South. Here it is. I'm from the North, so if I got anything wrong, I'm sorry.

South boundaries - Google Maps
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Then what region do those areas fit with? Northeast? Midwest? Not really. Those ares fit with the South more than any other region.
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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So exactly what are you trying to say??
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