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Old 07-13-2010, 04:59 PM
 
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Most likely, yes, for MSA Philly would pass Boston in sheer numbers. but taking out Providence would only increase Boston's percentage.

Providence has plenty of Irish but it's more of an italian town and the neighboring Fall River/New Bedford area is the most Portuguese part of the US.

BTW, those are not sheer numbers of Irish-American people.
22 million for NY?? 6/7 mil for Philly and Boston??
That's the total population of people in those CSAs, not people of Irish descent.


EDIT: haha ok, so Om and kidphilly probably already realized this, but it confused me, so just clarifying for all the other clueless folks.

Well we always make sure we get enough Starbucks coffee

I understand your point, all three among the large US cities probably have the highest concentration of Irish (and Italian) decendants
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Boston MSA 2008 Estimates: 4,522,858
Irish: 1,129,914 (25.00%)
Scotch-Irish: 37,795 (0.80%)

New York City MSA 2008 Estimates: 19,006,798
Irish: 2,147,511 (11.3%)
Scotch-Irish: 54,139 (0.30%)

Philadelphia MSA 2008 Estimates: 5,838,471
Irish: 1,253,596 (21.5%)
Scotch-Irish:
48,899 (0.80%)

Population of MSA by Sheer Numbers:
1. New York City
2. Philadelphia
3. Boston

Population of MSA by Percentage of Irish Population:
1. Boston
2. Philadelphia
3. New York City


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Originally Posted by TheWereRabbit View Post
Most likely, yes, for MSA Philly would pass Boston in sheer numbers. but taking out Providence would only increase Boston's percentage.

Providence has plenty of Irish but it's more of an italian town and the neighboring Fall River/New Bedford area is the most Portuguese part of the US.

BTW, those are not sheer numbers of Irish-American people.
22 million for NY?? 6/7 mil for Philly and Boston??
That's the total population of people in those CSAs, not people of Irish descent.


EDIT: haha ok, so Om and kidphilly probably already realized this, but it confused me, so just clarifying for all the other clueless folks.
Yeah, I put the total population of the CSA right next to the CSA name.
Then I showed the number of Irish people under that, for it to draw a visual contrast with their population compared to the total population.

My bad on that, but at least when you see the MSA one now, you'll know!
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Old 07-13-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Happy wherever I am - Florida now
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The small cities and rural areas of upstate and northern NY are predominately Irish. I noticed it after spending some time in Fl that everyone I knew back home was Irish. A quick trip across the border to Canada where you'll find a lot of it too.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:29 AM
 
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The small cities and rural areas of upstate and northern NY are predominately Irish. I noticed it after spending some time in Fl that everyone I knew back home was Irish. A quick trip across the border to Canada where you'll find a lot of it too.
Very true....You could live in any Upstate NY metro or city of any size and find at least a decent to large Irish American community/population. I'd even say that for Downstate NY too. Italian is the largest European ethnic group in the state though.
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Old 07-14-2010, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Very true....You could live in any Upstate NY metro or city of any size and find at least a decent to large Irish American community/population. I'd even say that for Downstate NY too. Italian is the largest European ethnic group in the state though.
Haha, you guys got me curious so I looked into it-

Buffalo CSA 2008 Estimates: 1,203,997
Irish: 213,105 (17.7%)
Scotch-Irish: 6,842 (0.60%)

Syracuse CSA 2008 Estimates: 723,617
Irish: 167,952 (23.2%)
Scotch-Irish: 6,118 (0.80%)

Rochester CSA 2008 Estimates: 1,125,997
Irish: 205,145 (18.2%)
Scotch-Irish: 8,044 (0.70%)

By percentage of Irish population overall presence in the CSA all three have New York City CSA beat.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:48 AM
 
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Haha, you guys got me curious so I looked into it-

Buffalo CSA 2008 Estimates: 1,203,997
Irish: 213,105 (17.7%)
Scotch-Irish: 6,842 (0.60%)

Syracuse CSA 2008 Estimates: 723,617
Irish: 167,952 (23.2%)
Scotch-Irish: 6,118 (0.80%)

Rochester CSA 2008 Estimates: 1,125,997
Irish: 205,145 (18.2%)
Scotch-Irish: 8,044 (0.70%)

By percentage of Irish population overall presence in the CSA all three have New York City CSA beat.
What's scary OmShahi is that the Albany-Schenectady-Troy area might have a higher percentage than the Syracuse area. I'd even guess that metros like Binghamton, Elmira and Glens Falls are up there too.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:13 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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I've driven across the country, and it feels like each place I explore isn't much different than the next. There's so much sprawl and blandness. Can anyone recommend places rich in Irish culture? Or sections of cities with a lot of Irish influence?
Scranton, PA...probably near the highest percentage of people with Irish ancestry....30.3% of Scranton's population is Irish according to city-data. Lots of Irish organizations in and around Scranton....Irish pubs are common, lots of predominantly Irish Catholic churches.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:24 AM
 
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What's scary OmShahi is that the Albany-Schenectady-Troy area might have a higher percentage than the Syracuse area. I'd even guess that metros like Binghamton, Elmira and Glens Falls are up there too.
Actually, I looked up the Irish percentages for the Albany/Schenectady/Troy metro counties, including Saratoga County from 2000 and the average also came out to 23.2% for that metro. So, it's roughly about the same, give or take now, as the Syracuse area.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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Actually, I looked up the Irish percentages for the Albany/Schenectady/Troy metro counties, including Saratoga County from 2000 and the average also came out to 23.2% for that metro. So, it's roughly about the same, give or take now, as the Syracuse area.
By sheer percentage both Syracuse & Albany areas have topped New York City's percentages. I guess that is what is to come from a very ethnically diverse city that percentages are smaller in given amounts.

It's rather impressive actually. I do not know why many count out or overlook the Upstate New York cities from a lot of these comparisons. I am South Asian, Buffalo is my favorite Northeastern city and one of my favorite cities altogether, and they have a very sizable Asian population as well.

Are cities Upstate overlooked because of New York City?
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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By sheer percentage both Syracuse & Albany areas have topped New York City's percentages. I guess that is what is to come from a very ethnically diverse city that percentages are smaller in given amounts.

It's rather impressive actually. I do not know why many count out or overlook the Upstate New York cities from a lot of these comparisons. I am South Asian, Buffalo is my favorite Northeastern city and one of my favorite cities altogether, and they have a very sizable Asian population as well.

Are cities Upstate overlooked because of New York City?
I think so, because people think that all of NY State is like NYC, which is not the case. For instance, the most Italian communities in the state are in Upstate NY. All 4 of the major Upstate NY cities have higher Black percentages than NYC now. Syracuse and Buffalo have above average Native American communities within both cities. Ithaca is about 17% Asian(Southern and Eastern). Western NY has a pretty strong German American flavor to it. So, I think people don't think about that when it comes to Upstate NY.


Also, you will find quite a few South Asians in cities like Binghamton, Corning, Ithaca, Schenectady and Syracuse. With Ithaca, Binghamton and Syracuse, that is due to the universities there. With the Corning area, many work for Corning Inc. With Schenectady, many work at GE or are Asian Indians with roots in Guyana that came by way of NYC.
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