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Old 08-24-2017, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Jackson, Mississippi
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I recently saw a map where parts of Wyoming, Montana, and Colorado were excluded from the West.

In your opinion, where does the West begin? Are Denver and Cheyenne western cities? Or does the West not begin until Salt Lake City or Phoenix?
According to the U.S. census bureau, the Western States are Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii. I agree with the census bureau in that those states are west of the Mississippi river and do not include Midwestern states or Southern states like Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Louisiana.
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Old 08-24-2017, 10:48 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Geographically - west of the continental divide

Historically - St. Louis, MO

Culturally - Denver, CO
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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According to the U.S. census bureau, the Western States are Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii. I agree with the census bureau in that those states are west of the Mississippi river and do not include Midwestern states or Southern states like Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, or Louisiana.
No Idaho?
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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I always thought it was weird that all those states had two time zones. The "western" region of South Dakota I think does somewhat line up with the Mountain Time Zone, but that's not the case in North Dakota.
Only southwestern South Dakota is in Mountain Time, while in the rest of SD, Central Time goes all the way to the Montana border
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:25 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Geographically - west of the continental divide

Historically - St. Louis, MO

Culturally - Denver, CO
I disagree with geographically. The Continental Divide goes through only the western third of Montana and only a part of Wyoming. Those are quintessential western states in their entirety.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Geographically - west of the continental divide
This is a poor measuring spot. Geographically it would be more like the start of the mountains (Rockies + the Rio Grande Rift/Tularosa Basin ranges)
The continental divide cuts through western NM and CO, while places that are definitely west (Santa Fe, El Paso) are all well east of the divide. Not to mention those quintessential western rivers (Pecos, Rio Grande) flow east of the divide.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Jackson, Mississippi
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No Idaho?
Whoops! Sorry! of course Idaho!
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:58 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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A nuanced line would actually be all squiggly and jagged. That's part of why when it comes to a hard line, the 100th is the best.
Absolutely. There is plenty of variation even along the 100th meridian. You have to go a few miles either way sometimes to see a major difference.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:41 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Draw a line from Laredo, TX, north to Canada passing about 30 or 40 miles east of Bismarck, ND, to roughly mark the beginning of the west. That includes most of the large Indian Reservations and a lot of iconic western towns and landscapes. There will be a few Midwest spots leaking across that line and a few western spots east of the line but not many. Some western cultural features like rodeos will be found in midwestern farming/ranching communities.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Draw a line from Laredo, TX, north to Canada passing about 30 or 40 miles east of Bismarck, ND, to roughly mark the beginning of the west. That includes most of the large Indian Reservations and a lot of iconic western towns and landscapes. There will be a few Midwest spots leaking across that line and a few western spots east of the line but not many. Some western cultural features like rodeos will be found in midwestern farming/ranching communities.
That's US 83, like I said
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