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Old 04-15-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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Only in Pennsylvania were the Germans really that big. And PA is probably the only state where colonial-era German ancestry outnumbers 19th century German ancestry.
I think you could add states in the Upper south too (VA, WV and the Carolinas).

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Indeed even in the Midwest there are states where I'd think there are more of English ancestry than German. For instance Michigan was settled primarily by Yankees (Yankees already greatly outnumbered Yorkers in New York State) and it also received many Canadians most of whom were of British ancestry. Indiana was settled by Virginians, and while there was German immigration I'm pretty sure they never outnumbered the "old stock" there.
I doubt English ancestry outnumbers German ancestry in a midwestern state. German immigration was really big in the Midwest so I really think they're the largest ancestry in all midwestern states. I always take the 1980 US census as a reference for White Americans ancestry because it seems the most reliable (although there must be changes after 30 years).

Michigan 1980

German: 26.9 %
English: 22 %

Indiana 1980

German: 32.4 %
English: 24.7 %

German ancestry was already around 30 % in all the midwestern states. About Canadians, I think it's much more French Canadians than Anglo Canadians but I may be wrong.

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In the Upper Midwest (Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas) there are clearly far more of German than English ancestry and very few people are of colonial-era (primarily Yankee) stock.
You're right, the Upper Midwest it's the only region where it's clear that there isn't many people of English stock. Only southwestern Wisconsin received immigrants from Cornwall.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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Immigrants from Quebec and the Maritimes generally went to New England, immigrants from Ontario predominated among Canadians in Michigan.

I agree the 1980 census is most reliable. When German ancestry became about as common as English ancestry in the South, it was no longer reliable.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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More Germans than English, but more Britons (English/Irish/Scottish/Scotch-Irish/Welsh) than Germans.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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I know that Germnay palyed a big part in settlig alot of texas during the spansih land grant days. Most of the rest where most mixed from US and wanting a new start .mnay families still own the land grant propeerties they passed down. One always has to remmber that texas gaveup no land to governam,nt when it joined the union.
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Old 04-15-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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"American" ancestry was recorded in the 1980 census but not recognized as an ancestry group. In its 1980 report, the Census Bureau stated that there were 38.3 million with ancestry not specified, which included 13.2 million saying they were "American" and 23.3 million not reported. About half of both groups were in the South.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:37 PM
 
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"American" Ancestry (1980)

UNITED STATES 5.9%

NORTHEAST
Maine 7.3%
New Hampshire 4.9%
Vermont 7.0%
Massachusetts 3.3%
Rhode Island 2.7%
Connecticut 3.4%
New York 3.9%
New Jersey 3.5%
Pennsylvania 3.9%

MIDWEST
Ohio 6.6%
Indiana 8.4%
Illinois 4.1%
Michigan 4.1%
Wisconsin 2.4%
Minnesota 2.2%
Iowa 4.2%
Missouri 7.4%
North Dakota 2.5%
South Dakota 3.8%
Nebraska 3.6%
Kansas 7.1%

SOUTH
Delaware 5.6%
Maryland 5.2%
D.C. 3.1%
Virginia 9.1%
West Virginia 14.8%
North Carolina 9.8%
South Carolina 10.1%
Georgia 11.6%
Florida 6.5%
Kentucky 14.4%
Tennessee 12.4%
Alabama 13.0%
Mississippi 9.7%
Arkansas 13.4%
Louisiana 5.9%
Oklahoma 10.4%
Texas 6.2%

WEST
Montana 4.2%
Idaho 6.2%
Wyoming 6.3%
Colorado 4.2%
New Mexico 4.2%
Arizona 4.2%
Utah 3.2%
Nevada 3.5%
Washington 4.7%
Oregon 5.6%
California 3.2%
Alaska 6.2%
Hawaii 0.8%
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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"American" ancestry was recorded in the 1980 census but not recognized as an ancestry group. In its 1980 report, the Census Bureau stated that there were 38.3 million with ancestry not specified, which included 13.2 million saying they were "American" and 23.3 million not reported. About half of both groups were in the South.
People of "United States" ancestry are Most commonly of at least partisl Scottish/Scotch-Irish
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:30 PM
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I know that Germnay palyed a big part in settlig alot of texas during the spansih land grant days. Most of the rest where most mixed from US and wanting a new start .mnay families still own the land grant propeerties they passed down. One always has to remmber that texas gaveup no land to governam,nt when it joined the union.
Right! I am supposedly related to the Kaufmans who founded Kaufman Co. Texas!
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Approximately 53 percent of European Americans today are of colonial ancestry, and 47 percent are descended from European, Canadian, or Latin American immigrants who have come to the U.S. since 1790. Americans of English ancestry were 60.9% of the European American population, I'm not very good at math but their number should be much more than 25 million today.

We all know southerners are mainly of colonial background but I'm sure there are many northerners who are as well but they don't know it.
53% have some colonial ancestry of mostly colonial ancestry? There might be many that have say 1/8 or 1/16 colonial but most of their heritage is from late 19th century immigrants onwards. [1/8 for me, probably.]
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Old 04-16-2013, 07:54 AM
 
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I know that Germnay palyed a big part in settlig alot of texas during the spansih land grant days. Most of the rest where most mixed from US and wanting a new start .mnay families still own the land grant propeerties they passed down. One always has to remmber that texas gaveup no land to governam,nt when it joined the union.
German, Irish, and English Americans are the three largest European ancestry groups in Texas. German Americans make up 11.3% of the population, and number over 2.7 million members. Irish Americans make up 8.2% of the population, and number over 1.9 million members. There are roughly 600,000 French Americans and 472,000 Italian Americans residing in Texas; these two ethnic groups make up 2.5% and 2.0% of the population respectively.

In the 1980 United States census the largest ancestry group reported in Texas was English with 3,083,323 Texans citing that they were of English or mostly English ancestry making them 27% of the state at the time. Their ancestry primarily goes back to the original thirteen colonies and for this reason many of them today simply claim "American" ancestry, though they are of predominately English stock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas#Demographics


German and Irish numbers in 1980 Texas:

German - 2,168,947
Irish - 2,420,367



-----> Anglo-American Colonization of Texas



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People of "United States" ancestry are Most commonly of at least partisl Scottish/Scotch-Irish
"American" is English, Scottish, Scotch-Irish and Welsh. I think that has been made pretty clear. The English are the core group though.

Most people of Scotch-Irish stock simply refer to themselves as "Irish".
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