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Old 11-02-2013, 07:59 PM
 
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Unlikely, most of the white population is descended from immigrants arriving in the 19th or early 20th century. Most would have no English ancestry whatsoever.

Boston not quite as much, but there's plenty and you can find people who are 100% Irish, or some combination with no English.
I'm talking 1600s-1800s. I have my own pedigree chart to reference. Many immigrants have come in the 20th century, but a lot of those could have married into the pre-existing society that existed there.
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Old 11-02-2013, 08:39 PM
 
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If you add up English ancestry + "American" ancestry in the 1980 census, you get 62 million or 27% of the population or one third of the white population. Which sound about right.
I didn't know you could already answer "American" ancestry in 1980, I though this was add in 1990. So if you add up all the British ancestries + Irish ancestry, in 1980 more than 100 million Americans traced their ancestry to the British Isles, that's huge and far more than the population in the British Isles.

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States where German ancestry outnumbered English + American ancestry, 1980 (population in thousands)

Wisconsin 2,414 (51.3%); 718 (15.3%)
North Dakota 307 (47%); 68 (10.4%)
South Dakota 323 (46.7%); 88 (12.7%)
Minnesota 1,768 (43.4%); 581 (14.3%)
Nebraska 724 (46.1%); 349 (22.2%)
Iowa 1,332 (45.7%); 758 (26%)
Pennsylvania 4,054 (34.2%); 2,382 (20.1%)
Illinois 3,103 (27.2%); 2,279 (19.9%)
Montana 255 (32.4%); 199 (25.3%)
Ohio 3,605 (33.4%); 3,084 (28.6%)
Kansas 829 (35.1%); 771 (32.6%)
New Jersey 1,373 (18.6%); 1,275 (17.3%)
Michigan 2,488 (26.9%); 2,418 (26.1%)
Colorado 869 (30.1%); 858 (29.7%)
Missouri 1,575 (32%); 1,561 (31.7%)
That's why I think the number of German Americans didn't drop. German ancestry make easily 35-45 % in the Midwest and even 30 years later the percentages are almost the same in Wisconsin, Nebraska, Minnesota, Montana or the Dakotas.

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90% might be too high, but I would not even think to put it below 75%. Excluding recent African black Americans, and Haitian-Americans and other West indies people, I'd say almost anyone descended from antebellum black Americans has some English ancestry. All that history of intermarrying. All it takes is one English ancestor for you to qualify as having English ancestry. I'm not trying to be an advocate here, I sort of dislike most things English or British, but I'm trying to estimate what seems like a likely truth.
I don't think intermarriage between slaves and slave owners was very common, especially in the British colonies. It was common in the French colonies like Louisiana because I think the French didn't have enough French women in the New world but the British didn't have that problem so it wasn't the first option to mix with Africans or Native Americans.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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I didn't know you could already answer "American" ancestry in 1980, I though this was add in 1990. So if you add up all the British ancestries + Irish ancestry, in 1980 more than 100 million Americans traced their ancestry to the British Isles, that's huge and far more than the population in the British Isles.
http://www.census.gov/population/www...1-10/tab01.pdf
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Old 11-03-2013, 02:57 PM
 
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Brits and white americans are generally brown haired and there are so many white people with darkbrown hair. Germans are mostly blond or fair hair, also considerably taller and bigger boned. Its obvious who americans are more related to.
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Old 11-04-2013, 06:26 PM
 
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Germans aren't mostly blond.
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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Many Germans changed their names to sound more English. For similar reasons, I suspect that in earlier generations there was more drift towards Protestantism than vice versa.

The question was English, not British. Of course, Ireland does not come into this question at all, Protestant or Catholic - or Scotland or Wales for that matter. Wales gets very little mention in the US. The answer I would favour is German, although one could also argue what German meant before 1870.

BTW the look of actors and models in the US in my view is closer to the German ideal than the English or British - bigger jaws on the women.

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Old 11-06-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Brits and white americans are generally brown haired and there are so many white people with darkbrown hair. Germans are mostly blond or fair hair, also considerably taller and bigger boned. Its obvious who americans are more related to.
Most Germans have brown hair too. Stay out of our thread, troll. Go spread your non-sense on the European forum. I can't believe the mods haven't banned your IP address yet. lol.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:25 PM
 
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Germans aren't mostly blond.
Most germans are light haired (blond or lightbrown), roughly 2/3 of them. Blond hair is very common among germans, not strictly the majority (as in 50%+ of population) but certainly a large chunk of the population, considerably higher than the English speaking nations such as the UK, Ireland, the US or Canada.

I myself prefer natural blonde women and I can easily notice that there are far more blonde women in Germany than anywhere in the anglo world, at least stereotypically tall natural blondes.
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Old 11-06-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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Many Germans changed their names to sound more English. For similar reasons, I suspect that in earlier generations there was more drift towards Protestantism than vice versa.

The question was English, not British. Of course, Ireland does not come into this question at all, Protestant or Catholic - or Scotland or Wales for that matter. Wales gets very little mention in the US. The answer I would favour is German, although one could also argue what German meant before 1870.

BTW the look of actors and models in the US in my view is closer to the German ideal than the English or British - bigger jaws on the women
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Actors and models arent representative of the overall population, most average joes look closer to british standard, germans are way more massive and usually blonder. Only in states like minnesota, north dakota, wisconsin ,etc you can find more of the actural german phenotypes. Many of the so german americans are allemanic germans, or french areas where german was spoken, they didnt come from hamburg or kiel
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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Most germans are light haired (blond or lightbrown), roughly 2/3 of them. Blond hair is very common among germans, not strictly the majority (as in 50%+ of population) but certainly a large chunk of the population, considerably higher than the English speaking nations such as the UK, Ireland, the US or Canada.

I myself prefer natural blonde women and I can easily notice that there are far more blonde women in Germany than anywhere in the anglo world, at least stereotypically tall natural blondes.
I bet you have all types of weird fetishes for blondes. You have probably the most insane posts on this forum. lol. Too bad you live in South America and have probably never even seen a blonde in person!
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