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Old 01-06-2016, 11:05 AM
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Is that metro or city?

The most German part of Pennsylvania is in Eastern Pennsylvania — about 80-150 west of Philly (Lancaster, York and Adams counties). Reported ancestries, separating from the Philly suburbs going westward

Delaware Country

15% German
27% Irish
18% Italian
12% English + American

Chester Country

23% German
24% Irish
15% Italian
17% English + American

Lancaster Country

38% German
11% Irish
6% Italian

York County

40% German
12% Irish
5% Italian
17% English + American

Adams County

38% German
14% Irish
5% Italian
20% English + American

and then Allegheny County (most of the Pittsburgh metro)

27% German
20% Irish
16% Italian
11% English + American

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Some of it that urban areas always got more non-German immigration, but even Chester County has a high German percentage for the Northeast Corridor. And Lancaster County has a small city in it.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:07 AM
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Or names like Trump (Drumpf).
Trump's father is an example of how Germans didn't think of themselves as "ethnic":

When Ms. Schifano moved to Jamaica Estates, Queens, the wealthy enclave where the Trumps lived, Freddy confided to her that his parents had panicked because, as Italians, the Schifanos were “the first ethnic family to move into the neighborhood.” But Freddy was less concerned with ethnic distinctions. When he enrolled at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania, the boy with blond hair who had attended an Episcopalian boys’ preparatory school on Long Island joined a Jewish fraternity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/03/us...ring.html?_r=0
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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People with only a tiny bit of German heritage always say they're German because it's less dull then saying you're "just American" or British.

There's FAR more of a British or Irish influence in this nation than German.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:16 AM
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People with only a tiny bit of German heritage always say they're German because it's less dull then saying you're "just American" or British.

There's FAR more of a British or Irish influence in this nation than German.
That might be true, though my experience people also label ancestry just "English" when it's unlikely that their entire ancestry is English. But that doesn't mean that there's much more British ancestry than German — plenty of those with German ancestry can check their family history and know they have much more German ancestry than English ancestry.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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People with only a tiny bit of German heritage always say they're German because it's less dull then saying you're "just American" or British.

There's FAR more of a British or Irish influence in this nation than German.
Saying British or English is a little dull and boring, I admit.

British might be bigger than German. English not a chance. Irish not a chance. Germany has sent millions of more migrants than Ireland did and started sending them a century and a half before the potato famine.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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For first ancestry reported:

New York State:

Italian 2,169,837 11.1%
British/American 1,695,617 8.7%
Irish 1,630,660 8.4%
German/Swiss 1,295,266 6.6%

While Italian and Irish are pretty strong through much of the state, Italian ancestry is relatively stronger in suburban NYC, while Irish is relatively stronger in eastern upstate (i.e. the Hudson Valley, Albany, Syracuse). German ancestry is strongest in Western New York. British ancestry is pretty common upstate too, particularly in rural areas.
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Saying British or English is a little dull and boring, I admit.

British might be bigger than German. English not a chance. Irish not a chance. Germany has sent millions of more migrants than Ireland did and started sending them a century and a half before the potato famine.
British ancestry (English, Welsh, Scottish and Scots-Irish) certainly is higher than German. English alone was the most reported in 1980 but German was close. English ancestry had a long head start, you can't just say "Germany sent more immigrants since 1820."

Irish I agree is probably the most "inflated" in terms of size. Especially when one takes into account that (generally) "Irish American" = Catholic. And most Irish Americans, at least outside notable places such as Boston, seem pretty "generic American" to me, far more so than Italians (though less so than German).
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:48 AM
 
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That might be true, though my experience people also label ancestry just "English" when it's unlikely that their entire ancestry is English. But that doesn't mean that there's much more British ancestry than German — plenty of those with German ancestry can check their family history and know they have much more German ancestry than English ancestry.
Except English ancestry dropped by about half between 1980 and 2000, particularly in the South, so obviously it's greatly undercounted. Some of these people may not be "100% English" - but discovering a distant German, French Huguenot or Cherokee ancestor doesn't subtract from the total number with English ancestry (an assumption many seem to make).
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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Saying British or English is a little dull and boring, I admit.

British might be bigger than German. English not a chance. Irish not a chance. Germany has sent millions of more migrants than Ireland did and started sending them a century and a half before the potato famine.
Why not a chance for English ancestry ?
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Why not a chance for English ancestry ?
Because a considerable proportion of "American" ancestry (albeit not the majority) is probably ultimately Scottish (directly or via Ulster) rather than English.
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